World's Rubbish Dump

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  1. Ojo

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    So how do we get Yanks dumping their garbage in the sea?
     
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    "CDC spokesperson Bernadette Burden told OneWorld that the report was held back because internal and external reviewers — including the Environmental Protection Agency and several state health departments — identified “numerous discrepancies and deficiencies” and determined a rigorous review was needed."

    Now, that's odd... our Federal agencies aren't concerned much with other things like GM crops and herbicides (among many others) where there are "numerous discrepancies and deficiencies" in the data they they have been provided (and that they have provided), so why get all excited about the ones in this report?

    We've got elections coming up... that's why.

    "So how do we get Yanks dumping their garbage in the sea?"

    Sorry, but it's not all us. Australia's cruise ships dump their garbage overboard, Australia's Navy dumps their garbage overboard, Australia's private sailboats dump their garbage overboard. And so do most other countries. The entire world has long treated the oceans like huge toilets.

    People are stupid and lazy. People are stupid and greedy. Pull the thread on nearly any problem, and guess what it leads to? People. Sometimes known as two-legged pigs.

    Sue
     
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    Yes Sue your right, every country does it. Here's a red faced example of getting caught. Most military stopped dumping toxic crap in the sea in the mid 80's, this included chemical and nuke waste.

    https://www.thedaily.com.au/news/2006/jan/28/scd-aircraft-carrier-in-hot-water-over-garbage/

    https://www.thedaily.com.au/news/2006/jan/29/scd-navy-probes-rubbish-find/

    https://www.thedaily.com.au/news/2006/feb/01/scd-us-carrier-exempt-from-dumping-law/

    Ever wonder how a container ship changes it's engine oil and what it does with the old oils??? yep you guessed right, over board in 44 gallon drums deep at sea. These large ships go though massive amounts of engine oil when you think the size of these engines are about the size of a house.

    I get the feeling one day someone will find all this crap on the main shipping roots at the bottom of the sea. They do sometimes find oil slicks but drummed oil is a lot harder to track when it takes a few years to rust out the drum.

    I don't eat sea food anymore.
     
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    The USA is the major polluter, of the seas.

    NO, I don't think "everyone is doing it".
    Even if it was the case, does that make it OK?
    https://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Ocean/ ... 5oct05.htm

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 092108.htm

    https://www.news.com.au/couriermail/stor ... 52,00.html

    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/va ... 82083.html


    The USA was dumping radioactive wastes past the 80's into the 1990s.

    What happens to all those USA barges of garbage we see in US monies
    (The ones the hero usually falls into)

    How come we have a raft of plastic and other waste the size of Texas++ just North of Hawaii?

    The USA is the major polluter, per head of population, on the planet.
    (And that's not counting the damage done by USA companies like Dow/Union carbide and Exxon in other countries). Dow still has to fix up the mess it made in India and Sydney Harbour.
     
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    Re: The USA is the major polluter, of the seas.

    Ojo
    I am not sure why you think the incidence of autism in Amish communities is relevant to this discussion. (I would love to be enlightened)

    But it was an interesting article and I have re=posted it here
    https://forums.hypography.com/social-sci ... ght=autism
     
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    At least you can excrete mercury and lead

    Unlike the poor fishermen's families in Sydney who have been poisoned by Dow's Chlorinated hydrocarbons and organo phosphates.

    Mum's can excrete CHs in milk - great stuff.

    We have yet to discover what delights await us as plastics from the 'ocean dump' goes though the food chain.

    Let's just hope and pray it doesn't kill phytoplankton.
     
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    Methylmercury is an organic form of mercury, the most toxic form, and the form that bioaccumulates in fish.
    https://toxics.usgs.gov/investigations/mercury.html

    Less than a month after the U.S. Congress passed an energy bill banning the incandescent light bulb by 2014, the UK Environment Agency issued guidelines calling for evacuation of any room where an energy-saving compact fluorescent light bulb is broken, releasing toxic mercury.
    https://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=59554

    https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/phs46.html
    https://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/j ... 52je23.htm

    Recently we have demonstrated three different mechanisms for mercury detoxification in one organism, Klebsiella pneumoniae M426, which may increase the capture efficiency of mercury.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12196161

    Interaction between Selenium and Methylmercury
    https://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... id=1637191
    https://www.ithyroid.com/autism.htm
    Selenium 100-400 mcg daily is very, very important—even borderline deficiency, as evident in red cells, can depress significantly the anti-oxidant enzyme GSHPx.
    https://asa.confex.com/asa/2005/techprogram/S1181.HTM
     

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