No worries gardenlen - happy to share. Tank was bought from Tanks Direct at Yandina for $2750. Rebate is $1000.
no worries thanks for that, just for your own info' maybe if you buy another shop around a bit more if you already didn't? compare bundaberg tanks and bushman tanks maybe they are 2 of the better known rural makers who will deliver free to your area. i've always shopped with bundy tanks the 5k gall (25k litre) tank we bought last august cost $2250. take care len
Yes - I checked many companies and I think the cheaper tanks were a squat shape which would mean a larger area to prepare so we went for the taller tank that was dearer.
Thanks Len. I'm in the middle of a dry sclerophyl forest, but fire is not such a problem as I have a reasonable cleared area around my shed. I just don't like the idea of my main water supply going up in smoke! I suppose there are pro's and con's with any tank material, and as it happens I'm pretty happy the plastic one. It'll take up to 3 months of average rain to fill. :? I have another, smaller, plastic tank that is maybe 8 years old, and it still looks good, although the water has become contaminated with leaf material over the years of unoccupancy. I didn't even look into the rebate as I guess it's for suburban homes, not for the likes of my little "wilderness retreat". :lol: GG, you seem to have some interesting issues with rainwater where you are. I wonder if a first flush device would be any help with the volcanic material? :shock:
I do a first flush after several days of dry weather...the old fashioned way. I manually divert the pipe coming from the gutters and then reconnect when I reckon it's right. Very unscientific, I know! lol I know there are other devices and when I redo the gutter system in a couple of years I will look into that. This catchment business is new to me too. They don't sell the big plastic 5,000 gal. tanks here. Do you then purchase drinking water? Or is is a food grade plastic they are made from?
gg, have you looked into those filter bags that can be fitted under the screen where the water comes in? they come in varying micron grades? ther are some fairly cheap and simple first flush systems around we are using one and for me this way is better management as i can still collect that water and use it around the agrdens it also lets me get some picture of what may come off the roof from time to time. ours is available as a kit (you only need to supply and extra length of 90mm pipe (ours are 1meter long that holds app' 7 litres of water), they work on a floating ball so when the tube fills the ball shuts off the open end and the wate then runs through to the tank. len
Hi Len, I have a 5 micron, then a 20 micron filter(s) after the catch before it is brought to the house. I have a old pantyhose (LOL) stuck onto the end off the pipe before the water goes into the catch to catch the really big stuff. I flush the gutters only after a spell of dry weather (like a week) lol. It rains most of the time here in Puna. :wink: I will look into the gadget you are talking about though. Although it is nothing to put on your swimsuit and go out in the rain. It's usually fairly warm year round. How nice to have a rebate. Guess we don't here because so many are forced to have catchment if they want water at all. I prefer it muchly to the county water.
g'day gg, right our climate much different to that! where i am hot/warm long summer app' 8 months but winter too cold to go outside without umbrella if it rains. anyhow our rebate is to seduce people into buying tanks and help conserve our dimishing water levels , silly realy hey blackmail people into conserving. i prefer the rain water as well don't know how anyone can stomach the town waters. len
The West Aust state government has had a campaign running to encourage water conservation. It has been so effective that now they have announced an increase in water prices...... to cover the loss in profits????? !!!!!! Gaaaaah :? :? :? :? :?
since i wrote that last post, they are going to increase price of water here as well but that is so private companies when they get to buy control of our water can make huge profits. and to cover all those rebates on silly little capacity water tanks all gov's in aus' will charge all people with a water tank a flat rate levy of app' whatever the base water rate value is on the rates notice in your locality (and taking the rebate means you have a contract with the gov' if i read teh fine print correctly), that will get their rebate back, and those who bought small just to get the rebate or didn't want to give up some lifestyle for water will feel the sting worst as their little tanks won't do much to save them using maximum town water, they may fill fast when rain is abundant but they empty fast too when people use them regular not a good equation in drought rain conditions. up here at present i am seeing a lot more bigger than 3k/lt tanks being delivered in the range of 10k/lt to 25k/lt (now that size makes sense), and vacant lots being filled with unwanted small tanks from 5k/lt down to 2k/lt sizes just siting there waiting for someone to buy them for immidiate delivery, yards and yards full of tanks all over the place. len
I think you are right Len. https://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2003/ ... 206000.htm My guess is that someone - one of several multinational water companies - has already done a secret deal with "our" government(s) to gain control of the nation's water.
alex, i got no doubt in my mind at all "it's a done deal" i reckon. that is why leaty is wresting control fo all water resources and the little bespectacled gnome is doing the same, once the states take control then the fed's will have control there after. i've had the opportunity of late to be involved in a survey run for the gov' i would suggest, and it is about recycling water, you get asked the same/similar questions in different ways ('A" typical gov' way of doing things, it's called "double speak"). anyhow i took this opportunity on both accounts to voice my opinion, don't know if it will matter much to them most likley not but my guess others involved will be giving wishy wahsy answers and getting caught up in the "double speak" trap. will get $7 for participating in each survey. len
Len, I believe that the government surveys public opinion these days, not to find out what the people want, but to better devise the necessary spin to sell the plans they have contrived in partnership with their cronies. A very thin veneer of what looks a bit like democracy remains to cover what is, in fact, government on behalf of the interests of corporations, regardless of the wishes and best interests of the people. This is Howard's New Federalism. Using the Corporations Powers of the constitution to centralise power; quite the opposite of its original purpose. :evil:
Looks like you are right. On the news this morning that the Qld govt is considering privatising water. I'd say as you suggest, that it's already a done deal and this is just the psychological conditioning for the masses. I thought the purpose of Government was to provide, control and guarantee the service of utilities necessary for social order and support industry. Isn't that wy we pay taxes. I could say some very bad words. Jackie K :-x :-x :-x :-x :-x :-x :-x
no utilities should ever be privatised they are owned by the people not the gov's we the people from our forefathers on paid for that infrastructure, and we elect gov' to manage those for us on a non-profit basis that is enough revenue for maintenance and modernisation. the gov' found out how stupid the electorate was when it sold telstra and the owers of it bought it back as shares, that is a bigger scam than selling the sydney harbour bridge to yanks. be like selling your home and then paying rent to live in it for the rest of you life. and water and power along with public transport going the same way. the post is a bit harder to do but they are carving up the cake. must be the price we pay for the 18 year old vote. len
So is this the face of "progress ? https://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=270066 NZ woman dies after electricity cut off Wednesday May 30 10:27 AEST A New Zealand woman who relied on an oxygen machine died after a power company switched off the electricity to her home, a relative says. Family spokesman Brenden Sheehan said the woman died on Tuesday despite a contractor for Mercury Energy being told the woman relied on electricity to survive. "They came to the house and they were aware of the circumstances when it (the power) was cut off," Sheehan told Radio NZ. Electricity was turned off at about 2pm and the woman died shortly afterwards despite an ambulance being called, according to reports. Sheehan said the woman was not working because she was too ill, and her husband had reduced his work hours so he could care for her. Police have launched an investigation into the death but have said it is too early to speculate on murder or manslaughter charges. A statement from Mercury Energy said the company was investigating the circumstances surrounding the death. Mercury had policies in place to stop disconnections if the company was made aware of medical need, the statement said. "The company restored electricity to the household early this morning to help the family through this difficult time," the statement said. Mercury Energy general manager James Moulder said the company was devastated by the woman's death but would not say how much money was owed on the power bill. New Zealand's Green Party has called for a public inquiry into the death. "Is there no social responsibility requirement? No code of conduct?" said the party's Sue Bradford. "Things are looking very bleak for this country when companies will literally allow someone to die in the pursuit of profits," she said. Bradford said the government should be demanding answers how the company, controlled by state-owned enterprise Mighty River Power, allowed the woman's power to be cut off. A spokesman for State Owned Enterprises minister Trevor Mallard said a statement on the incident could be released this afternoon. Sue the B's Jackie K [/quote]
TY for posting the article Jackie, even though it made me cry. Len thank god you have such a nice signature. I needed to read and reread it after that article. What a terrible state of affairs we appear to be coming to as a species. I know of cases in the states, each winter where people freeze to death because they are cannot afford to pay the exhorbitant heating bills. I shudder to think how deaths will increase as the wars for natural resources progress. It's getting more and more difficult to live 'outside' the system.
As will have read in the article I posted above - https://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2003/ ... 206000.htm - people died protesting in Bolivia, killed by their own army, which was protecting the interests of corporate power against the interference of the people. The corporation was eventually defeated, but I think you'll agree that none of us want to see things go that far in this country.
