Where can I buy tagaste seeds/trees?

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  1. gypsyoak

    gypsyoak Junior Member

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    I am wanting to plant some fodder trees for my goats, but I can't seem to find where to buy them. I am in the Adelaide Hills, South Oz. If you know where I can get them or any other suitable fodder trees for goats, please let me know! Very much appreciated!
     
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    ta very much!!
     
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    Hey I know its an old post but I live in the adelaide hills and I have found heaps of tagasaste trees on the side of the road.

    When their pods are ready I will be out there collecting seeds for my own yard. I figure that they have already adjusted to the climate.

    I purchased some tagasaste trees from eden seeds last year and none germinated. I guessed that they were probably old seeds and not viable anymore.

    Anyway if you want an unlimited source of seeds that are fresh i suggest collecting them off trees on the side of the road.
    Or give me a yell soon because I might have some spare after my harvest of seeds.

    cheers
     
  5. Grahame

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    You need to break their dormancy/scarify them. Last time I germinated some they went well on the advice from a local tree grower. Now I'm not sure if I have the right number but he was very specific and told me to dip them in boiling water for 53 seconds. I can check with him again next time I see him if you like. But that number feels about right.

    Grahame
     
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    53? Wow - that's really very obsessive compulsive stuff!
     
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    When I have gleemed some seeds off the side of the road I will have to try the 53 second method.

    I was going to direct seed some of them on a fence line on my parents property. Anyone know if this will be successful?

    I have digged small seedlings up before and potted them in milk containers and they have started growing even with a broken tap root. I wonder though how healthy they would eventually be.
     
  8. PeterFD

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    Hi gypsyoak

    Try www.grandeverge.com

    They’re very big on alpaca’s / Llamas and tree lucerne. Seeds, tree’s, advice etc.

    Last time I checked you could get around 4,500 seeds for about 35$ post-free.

    Two points,

    Grahame is right on scarification, they won’t germinate without some form of “anti-dormancy” treatment.

    Don’t forget to try and use an inoculant of the correct type of bacteria if possible.

    I have a goatherd in a Northern European Temperate Zone (French Alpes) and I’m just starting to develop this type of fodder crop.

    Good luck,

    Peterfd
     
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    I agree, eco :) I usually have about 80 - 90% success by sitting them in a pan of water, bringing it to just boiling then letting it cool down. I have noticed that they tend to take longer than you'd think to sprout. Maybe some (a lot?) of people have decided they're no good a bit prematurely
     
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    I'm trying seed from Eden at present. I have just whacked it in potting mix and I'm waiting.... They haven't germinated yet, but I don't know if it is because I'm subtropical and they prefer temperate, or it's dodgy seed. But I'll ignore them for a few months and see if it is just the time thing.
     
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    Ha Ha Ha all trying and No Sucsess.....Bout time you listened to how they started off....So many ways to germinate.that wont work.....

    There is a specific way to germinate them,they dont just germinate like vege seeds... these are seeds designed to survive dry horrible conditions,untill its right to germinate....

    Boiling seeds isnt exactly the smartest thing to do,unless your skilled at seed germination...For a tree that grows so profilic in most places,to be so hard for people to germinate... I wonder why...

    I gotta go out now..Important town meeting today,Im off to make my presence felt and input my voice in the preceedings, also free lunch lolol...

    Back later to give tagga lessons....

    Tezza
     
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    ooooo you are such a tease! I'm waiting for you to get back from your free lunch for the next instalment...
     
  13. Terra

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    After the bushfire went through here in 2005 areas where there were old tagaste trees , seedlings came up like the proverbial hairs on a cats back we are still getting odd plants come up 5 yrs later so they are incredibly resiliant and hard seeded , so there is one answer .
    Rob
     
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    Glad I'm not hanging by the fingernails waiting for you to get back, Tezza :|
     
  15. Tezza

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    Sorry bout the finger nails...

    I reposted a reply to this post with another (older) post.......

    I went looking for more info in the "Search Link" Does anyonre ever use this?

    Reading it reminded me why i had wanted to find a better answer to the/this "question"...

    After a quick glance i thought it would be more interesting as it had 1st hand answers from seed sowers for 4/5 years earlier,Who had failed!!!!and showing the ways that didnt work was better and easier then me typing like crazy to get ignored again :rofl:

    My reposting was done to highlite the problems of blindly following so-called expert advise re tagga seeding... also hoped that those who posted back then may of returned and gave us news of things working out for various reasons,and we all coulda learnt something,maybe......

    Back then all posters got a reminder to see any further posts via email...Was/am hoping some may respond after their new email.....

    A lot/most of subjects have been disscused at great lenths,by a variety of experienced permies etc..

    If you were looking for Free range chooks ....type in free range chooks,therll be lots of hot info bout chooks and all questions,get an airing..... Its not quite Google but it works... GIVE it a try.... If you still got a question after reading the whole post,add your reply and it will go str8 to top of the list in the forum of its own subject matter.... good init huh?

    I also wasnt having a good day by time i got back on line,and forgot to answer :angel::angel::angel:
     
  16. eco4560

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    4 plants have definitely now germinated for me. I'm nursing them on in anticipation. You can tease anytime Tezza. I have a thick hide except when I'm premenstrual and then all bets are off!
     
  17. Janine

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    Hi there,

    This comes late after the last post..however, I have 2 questions?

    Does anyone have any seeds to spare and does anyone know about risk of invasion (of the bush) of these plants on the Sunshine coast?

    many thanks,
     
  18. TreeSpiral

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    If managed incorrectly tagasate will invade the bush. I live in the Adelaide hills and this tree grows wild on the side of the road.

    if you can't find anyone in your area that has seeds I could see if there are any left on the trees in my area and send them in the mail. If you do source seeds make sure they are fresh. I bought some from Eden seeds and they never germinated. How many seeds do you want?
     
  19. Janine

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    thanks Treespiral

    I will look to see if they are local.
    I'm on a little 10 acre farm and would like to plant and grow about 20 trees max, so I guess 50 or so seeds would allow for any losses.

    I will check with our local land care group to see what they reckon about management to prevent invasion.

    Thanks very much for your advice and kind offer.

    If I am still needing seeds, I'll post the request here.

    Janine
     
  20. permasculptor

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    We are too far north for them to grow well on the sunshine coast. Mine died at about 2 foot high.
     

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