What are "10" critical fruit trees?

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  1. Pakanohida

    Pakanohida Junior Member

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    What are "10" critical food forest trees?

    Please include what climate you are from as well.

    Tropical will not be the same as Cool Humid for example.
     
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    What do you mean by critical? Essential for human life?
     
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    Pakanohida Junior Member

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    Sure :) As in for self-sufficiency, and each one should be different.
     
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    Anything that will survive on its own, which I haven't found yet. :(
     
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    Climate:
    Inland maritime/hot/dry/frosty
    Ha, ha I agree with Ludi, except the things that self seed, survive and produce food here are: apples, plums, peaches, cherries, apricots and almonds (although the almonds are next to an irrigated orchard). Oh and pears.

    My list, and I have to include nuts sorry (because they go with fruit) but I will list them separately. Dry, maritime climate with around 650mm, hot summers, cold winters to -8C frosts (10 in a bad year).


    In no particular order:

    1. apples (different varieties staggered for different harvest times, eating and cooking apples. Cider and vinegar apples too)
    2. figs (because they are divine and a good source of fruit sugars, dry well for our low food winters)
    3. peaches (summer fruit, dry well for our low food winters)
    4. apricots (summer fruit, dry well for our low food winters)
    5. pears (dry and preserve well)
    6. blackcurrants (bioflavanoids and other essential nutrients)
    7. blackberries (bioflavanoids and other essential nutrients)
    8. raspberries (bioflavanoids and other essential nutrients, herbal medicine)
    9.
    10.

    I've left the last two blank because I think there will be fruit trees that would grow in this climate that do well in a permie system that I don't know about or aren't grown here yet. I haven't included trees like elder because they grow wild here.


    1. walnuts (protein storage)
    2. chestnuts (protein storage, flour)
    3. almonds (protein storage, flour)
    4. hazelnuts (protein storage, flour)
     
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    Location:
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    Climate:
    Inland maritime/hot/dry/frosty
    I should probably add lemons but they are hard to grow here. Maybe quince because they have that tart lemony taste.
     
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    In the tropics , coconut , banana , jakfruit , jaboticiba , Galip nut , canistel , mamee , avacado , lime , breadfruit .
     
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    banana's, currants, blackberries, raspberries?
    the're not trees.

    for me it's..

    Olives
    Persimmon
    Nectarines
    Figs
    Apricots
    Cherries
    Plums
    Mandarine
    Avocado
    Pears
    Apples
     
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    It depends on the site, but in a Sub-Tropical climate I would consider:

    1) Mango
    2) Brazillian Cherries
    3) Avocado
    4) Banana
    5) Passion Fruit
    6) Paw Paw
    7) Custard Apple
    8 ) Citrus (Lime, Lemon, Orange etc)
    9) Pomegranate
    10) Tamarillo
     
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    Mediterranean climate, for my tastes:

    1. Lemon
    2. Orange
    3. Avocado
    4. Apple
    5. Lime
    6. Olive
    7. Blood Orange
    8. Pomegranate

    That's all the fruit trees I'd want, or need, I don't particularly care for fruit (as you can see, 4 citrus!), but I'd probably plant multiples of the fruits I like (Avocado, for example, because it's so nutritious). Fruit vines are where it's at (pumpkins and tomatoes and grapes!)
     
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    Cool mountain climate.
    1.Apples
    2.Olives for leaves while we wait for the fruit-great anti bacterial/viral fungal lovely tea.
    3.Persimmon
    4.Mulberry
    5.Elder (hopefully), it doesnt grow wild up here more the pity.\
    6.Meyers lemon grows in cooler climes
    7.Oranges.
    8.Mandarin
    9.Hazelnut
    10.Walnuts
    would love to include nectarines and peaches and almonds but they dont seem to fruit too well here as the humidity hits the fruit at the wrong time and they suffer every year from brown rot.=(
     
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    Banana, lime, emporer mandarin, washington navel orange, late navel orange, valencia orange, macadamia nut , Hass avocado, Cherry guava, grumichama, jaboticaba, ice ceam bean, Mulberrry, Tamarillo, passiuonfruit, pawpaw, fig, grapefruit, jackfruit, Wampi, feijoa, lemon, kaffir lime, ruby grapwfruit, blood orange, pineapple, persimmon, there are others, but these are the majors in order of desirability and suitability.
    Cheers
     
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    What would be the 10 critical fruit trees for a hot, desert-like climate?
     
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    Location:
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    Climate:
    Inland maritime/hot/dry/frosty
    "banana's, currants, blackberries, raspberries?
    the're not trees."

    We don't have that kind of pedant-tree here ;-p

    Ludi, what are your winters like?
     
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    I'm in US hardiness zone 8; it get down to about 15F during cold winters.
     
  16. Terra

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    Mediterranean climate South Australia

    1. Lemon
    2. Orange
    3. Mandarin
    4. Apple
    5. Almond
    6. Avocado
    7.Nectarine
    8. Peach
    9. Apricot
    10. Olive
     
  17. Pakanohida

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    1. Apple
    2. Olive
    3. Pine Nut
    4. Fig
    5. Lime
    6. Almond
    7. Hazelnut
    8. Yet To Be Determined
    9. Pear
    10. Yet to be determined

    Humid Cool Coastal Rainforest
     
  18. garnede

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    Here is my 10: There is 11 but I don't think of olive as a fruit. I also included some essential nuts. This is for a warm/hot temperate climate with plenty of rain.

    Olives
    Persimmon
    Plumb
    Figs
    Peach
    Pears
    Apples
    Lemon
    Mulberry
    Kumquat
    elderberry


    Pecan
    Hickory
    walnut
    almond
    hazelnut
     
  19. Pakanohida

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    Dry Desert

    1. Beurre gris pear (Undemanding, can be grown in dry windy areas, frost hardy. Good for drying.)
    2. Fig (There are drought tolerant large fig types, and between the fig and pear, you have a lot of leaves for mulching.
    3. Osage Orange
    4. Date
    5. Citrus
    6. Olive
    7. Bamboo
    8. Stone Pine
    9. Pistachio
    10. Almond

    These should all be fairly drought tolerant while humidty & shade is built up which will allow more variation in the understory. Fun practice!


    ((Now can an actual Permaculture Deisnger tell me if I got this right?))
     
  20. Yukkuri_Kame

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    Even supposedly drought-tolerant bamboos are likely to need irrigation in truly dry climates.

    Pomegranates get by on very little water, but will fruit better with a little irrigation.
     

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