what about the bees

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  1. permasculptor

    permasculptor Junior Member

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    Re: what about the bees

    It makes me think that history might show that hitler was small fry compared to the monsanto executives.
     
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    Re: what about the bees

    add Dow (ex Union Carbide to that list)
    Of course they did have a connection with Hitler in that they stole the German patent for organophosphates which Hitler used in his gas chambers- to use as a farm and garden pesticide.(Still used today).
    On the bee issue (VERY serious- Einstein said man would only survive 4 years without bees).
    SEE
    https://hypography.com/forums/news-in-br ... aring.html
    and
    https://hypography.com/forums/biology/15 ... -bees.html


    On the corporate responsibility/blame issue
    I wonder if the real reason Sydney harbour is being proposed as a Marine National Park-thus banning all fishing- is because of the masses of Agent Orange in the harbour and in the blood of harbour fishermen and their families?
    Put there by Union Carbide (Dow) during the Vietnam war.
    Dow has still not compensated the people it killed and poisioned in Bhopal, India despite a huge shareholder revolt on the issue. (Many shares are held by Firemen, Nurse & other ethical industry super funds).
    Perhaps this is the only way to change their environmentally destructive habits- buy shares-not their products! :idea:
    https://www.ghchealth.com/revolt-against-the-empire.html

    [​IMG]
    Rather an ironic photo of the Dow board. I guess they thought it was funny.
    https://www.bhopal.net/dowunioncarbide/a ... index.html

    https://generation-z.blogspot.com/2006_0 ... chive.html

    https://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:h8 ... %2604-2006).pdf+Dow+Bhopal+India+shareholder+revolt&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=au&client=firefox-a

    https://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:rM ... =firefox-a

    https://mail.uevora.pt/pipermail/ambio/ ... 06340.html
     
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    What about the bees?

    More on the colony colpse disorder in the States here
    https://discovermagazine.com/2007/jul/be ... hterm=bees

    https://discovermagazine.com/2008/mar/20 ... hterm=bees

    https://discovermagazine.com/2008/jan/sl ... hterm=bees

    https://discovermagazine.com/2009/jan/04 ... hterm=bees
     
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    Re: what about the bees

    in australia we have a good alternative to the introduced european bee, native bees with none of the pests mentioned that I am aware of. Do not despair.
     
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    Re: what about the bees

    In terms of pollination and honey production, the European bee and Native Australian bee are very different creatures. Thankfully, the Ligurian strain present on Kangaroo Island is pure and protected.

    I had an upsetting incident concerning bees happen to me a few years ago. A natural hive had formed on my front fence, feeding from the nearby hibiscus bushes and the myriad of myrtle gum nearby. A neighbour complained (and, I guess, rightly so) about the safety of this hive given that it was growing in size and the amount of bees swarming about the place was making passage difficult.

    Stupidly and much to my everlasting regret, I called the local (Enfield back then) Council. They assured me they would send an apiarist out who would carefully remove the hive and put it to good use.

    A pest controller arrived and without so much as announcing his arrival, sprayed the fence. It took four long, agonising days for those bees to die. The entire family was upset as were the neighbours. You could hear them - such a distressing sound - and the ground was littered with their bodies. Of course, my flowers died and the bushes soon followed.

    When I wrote to complain, no one knew anything. Since that day, no bee has visited my front garden.

    At the end of the day, it's up to us to ensure the bees' survival. For now, Australia is a very different landscape to that of America. Let's keep it that way.
     
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    Re: what about the bees

    shade,
    "For now, Australia is a very different landscape to that of America. Let's keep it that way."

    Different landscapes, same civilisation, unfortunately, and run very much the same way. With many victims as long as we continue to live as though our lifestyle were not negotiable.

    (I'm Canadian and so influenced by both American and Australian/British systems.)

    ShadowWalker
     
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    Re: what about the bees

    Not sure what you mean by 'British/Australian' - this appears to imply to me that the two are the same or that you can't have one without the other :)

    Sorry about how I worded that earlier post, I should have inserted 'quarantine' and 'biosecurity' in there somewhere along the line. I wasn't referring to social, fiscal or legal systems.
     

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