Re: We're a demographic - lets do a sort.-check out the players! I have a disability too which restricts in some ways what I can do physically. But it also enables me in other ways (have better survival skills than alot of undisabled people). I'm not a fan of concepts that presume that one has to be able only in certain ways to be doing it right. There are alot of people I know who are not 'getting out' but are doing the prepartory work from within systems so that when the changes come they will be in good places to work with that. Also we are going to need people who can work within dysfunctional and unsustainable systems (who will look after the the nuclear power plants if there is a societal collapse? I for one will be grateful for the people who stayed in the system and kept those skills). Ultimately for me permaculture is about consciousness and the place we come from in ourselves in living in the world, not whether we are following certain rules about what's the right way to do it.