You're right unmutual, it probably will happen again. History repeats.............. same as you though, I'd rather suffer than die at this point in time. If the shtf my kids and family and friends have all said they are coming to my place. Picking up on Len's words and thoughts too, I think those rich and comfy folk will be the ones to suffer most having not learnt how to make do and go without. Too used to instant gratification and first world problems. Time will tell.