So there is a lot going on with regard to our energy sources. The U.S. just realised that they're not likely going to develop a technology for safely disposing of spend nuclear fuel any time in the near future so they've decided to just mix it in with other recycled metal and disperse it that way. I saw a documentary the other night on wind farms that was actually quite well done. On-shore farms are now so big that they are putting stresses on the electrical grid that these grids were never designed to take, and the infra-sound related health issues are getting worse as the turbines get bigger. There is geothermal, but there aren't enough locations where this is feasible. From an energy audit perspective, solar is only economical if the tax payer subsidises it. There is hydro, but people are worried about the aquatic life as if nobody yet has come up with a design that is environmentally friendly. Of course we know about the desertification effect of large scale hydro projects. There is tidal energy and I'm frankly surprised that it's not taken off. Can anyone explain? Which leaves us with fossil fuels. I must admit, I don't understand fossil fuels. We seem to only find fully converted product (it's supposed to be a natural breakdown process of ancient bi organisms). If fossil fuels are formed they way we're told, why then why don't we find deposits in the intermediate stages? I also don't understand the "dirty coal" label. Dirty coal died decades ago before the exhaust scrubbing and carbon / sulphur capture technology was applied in the 1980's in response to the acid rain issue. Yes, it's dirty in respect to making your hands go black if you handle it, and it's dirty to mine. So I'm not looking for an argument here. I'm honestly curious about what the best assessment of our energy sources are. I'm actually neutral on this topic thanks to the fact that everyone on the planet with an agenda seems to be lying to us, so I thought we could have a discussion, look at the facts as they are presented, and test those facts to see if they are what the proponents claim them to be - facts.