Two different wind turbines

lol lol your good for a giggle grasshopper, you at least are keeping the oath of your belief, great to see.

you have seen it said here i think by grahame, that the indefensible have no rights to expect basic protection from the greedy pollies and manipulators who cause heat ache for us all, i'll say again for us all, us all being human's. and the greed continues to prop up self importance reportedly a new founded climate section getting $1k an hour yet no one can find money for health and dental.

you did say the greedy GH not the needy.

len

 

Theory and mathematical calculations ARE evidence. Sure they are not absolute proof, but it is very useful.

No one in this forum, or in the IPCC, desires suffering of others. That is just a dumb-arse, ignorant and childish thing to say.

Wherever you are 'hearing' your climate change information, you are grossly uninformed Len. There is clearly no point in giving you links to evidence and discussions about this because you steadfastly refuse to read them. Please take your climate denier/sceptic crap somewhere else. This forum is for adult, informed and intelligent discussion. This is the last time I will dignify your trash with a response.

 

You have misunderstood everything I have ever said to you directly or indirectly Len.

 

The real truth behind the so called IPCC error.

 

The 5 stages of climate denial are on display ahead of the IPCC report

 

That slanted article was painful to read; much like reading someones posts here that refuses to participate by reading information, just whines and makes stuff up like Monsanto. However, unlike the person I have on ignore they (The IPCC) admitted a mistake. Sometimes I wonder if he works for Monsanto or the like. ANY WAY....

What someone should of taken away from this was yes, it is not warming as fast as they said (they should check the math yet again and get rid of Intel processors) but the fact that it is still warming & we humans still have time to do something to fix the egregious error we have made in our own nest.

 

grahame sais:

"Yep everybody needs those things to varying degrees Len. Unfortunately food, housing, power, water, medicine, dental and transport are all intricately reliant on fossil fuel energy.
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I'm sorry Len, but no matter what, we will never have cheap energy from the corporate grid ever again (and thus cheap dental, medical, water etc). Those days are gone, burnt away, up the smoke stack. But what we could do if we (as a society) are willing to take a hit to our 'standard of living' is use what energy we do have left to come up with some viable options for the future."

the health of the people has nothing to do with your hatred of industrialisation, driven by single mindedness, your hypothesis simply says now that you the elite say petrol and coal power has to be turned off, long before this is an affordable alternative, and if we are going to be charitable and caring it needs to be affordable to all so what the down trodden can afford is the price, that would allow for the slight against humanity now in vogue, by donating to an inhumane cause.

so regardless if you few don't like pollution then whilst providing good health care, give us this new dreamtime solution, don't give us more conjecture and possibly in the pipe line theory, give us actuality, and make renewable power for the homes affordable, and from high integrity companies probably unlike the one mentioned here earlier.

is i am not stupid as you judged me by your own merits nor am i silly nor have i missed the point all your judgements. stop making me the scape goat of the system other's developed a system that will never change until those like you come out of your comfort zones and deal in factuality, not pixy dreams.

len

 

The only pixy dreams are from those who want the fantasy of "cheap" power to continue.

 

in your cruel quest GH you forget i ask for good care for all those that can and those that cannot you peddle misery for those who cannot. you offer them no hope.

your one liners are stabs in our backs.

len

 

The truth is going to be painful and unpalatable.
We are living beyond our means and it cant last for ever.

The true cruel quest is do nothing.

 

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