On the issue of my using the term, 'permie': The simple fact of the matter is, I was being (literarily) lazy. A more appropriate turn of phrase may have been: a person whom self identifies with the concept known as permaculture A little too wordy, and too near to how I have to write in one of my other roles, so it didn't happen. Anyhow, my sincerest apologies to anyone who may have been offended by my original the use of the term, 'permie'. As an aside, a search on the term 'permie' using the following 'resources' reveals: Oxford (English) Dictionary: no entry Macquarie (Australian) Dictionary: no entry Urban Dictionary: 1. permie - Term used by temporary/contract workers (normally I.T.) to describe someone who is a permanent employee. Term can be interchanged with "Wage Slave". The retort is "get lost you contractor scum". Example: Hey Ho. Hey Dave, how come your permies always throw sickies when the Rugby is on? Why does a dog lick his bollocks? 2. permie - A practitioner of permaculture, a permaculturalist. Example: Some permies came up in this abandoned lot and guerrilla gardened a nice edible seven layer food forest. 1. [permie] - Someone who is really into permaculture design. Example: My friend jack is a true permie he doesn't have a lawn, own a car, and he lives in a yurt. The latter entry was made by someone who calls one's self 'permie boi', so it could perhaps be a little biased .