The reason for this forum

Permaculture is an international and national movement.
This section of the Permaculture Forums is designed to keep groups in contact with each other, to advertise their existence, their web-links, newsletters and activities.

To offer help and advice to new groups on everything from running meetings to advertising.
How to encourage membership. How to shut Bruce up (he talks so much).
How to teach the treasurer to add up.

Reports to web, and other links, resources, lectures and events that different groups have found successful.
International links, membership swaps, visits and help. Help in money, seed or kind. Perhaps help to save a rare fruit tree or to give accommodation to working world-wandering Permies. (No bludgers )

Give a bloke a bit of power and. . .well I didn't ask for it. . .but you got me.. .so get over it :evil:

I am also thinking of another new section where permaculture trainers/educators/ can place their CV's. location, special skills, and interest, courses being run etc. Do you want this?
Why am I asking? There is no krypotonite here. :evil: :bear:

 

Re: The reason for this forum

What a good idea.
But we are a diverse group who tend not to agree (a lot).
Will the place you propose cater for 'all' Permaculture designers, their friends, kids, parents, dogs, chickens et al ( 'The Happy Barnyard' ) as well as provide the space needed for warring factions to engage in vigorous debate?

It is all good. but I'm not serious about 'kids'. Kids have got world of warcraft.

It is sometimes hard being a permie. It is a hard unforgiving world. A 'soft' spot tantamount to the 'Permaculture Lounge'...we could make it the sort of place where you are not allowed to throw compost at your perma collegue. Indeed a place free of debate.

At the same time I thought 'soft place', I thought 'hard place' (sorry, couldn't help it). Shit yeah! Lets have a hard place. It will become part of the language of this forum (stay with me, you could get famous-er),,along the lines of "hey this thread is getting intense, see you at the 'hard place'.

Soft Place, Hard Place, Happy Barnyard,,,Killing Fields? I jest.
regards, Kimbo

 

Re: The reason for this forum

So what groups do agree?

You might like to "shoot the breese" here?

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Re: The reason for this forum

Hmmm.... World of Wormcraft. Has a nice ring to it don't you think? Could be a huge new offshoot of permaculture!

 

Re: The reason for this forum is World of Wormcraft

LOL
Definite possibilities, especially if you add all the other 'wee beasties' with interesting names like, slime molds, Tree Root, Glowing Glomalin, Methanogens, Archaea, Mycorrhizal, Cryptobiotic, Cyanobacteria,Troglobitic.
Even J.R.R. Tolkien could not think up those scary names!

See latest permaculture news on Facebook's "Farming" Game.

Seriously a permaculture simulation game like Sim Earth has good teaching and learning possibilities.

 

Re: The reason for this forum

now we're cooking...

perhaps 'worm of warcraft'.......kinda gives us a foot in both camps.

is there any way we can make the reason for this forum '42'.
If we could, I'm sure we could double our projections.

The HitchHikers Guide to Permaculture with 'Don't Panic!' on the cover.

regards, Kimbo

 

Re: The reason for this forum

The meaning of life is 42 we can't impinge on that!

I think "Don't Panic!" and "Run Away!" (Rincewind does it well) are the two best bits of life advice I have ever had!

 

I just did a PDC with Geoff Lawton at Mulloon Creek Natural Farm. He spoke of a document called "How to birth a local permaculture group" or the like. Anyone know where I can get a copy? Or if there is already a local group around Brunswick, Melbourne?

 

Hi Sarah - I've been looking for that, too
May have to go to the horses' mouth (not Tolley, the OTHER horse) - I've just sent him an email for more info

Only problem in this forum seems to be getting buried under Michaelangelica's signature

Regards
Don

 

so why all the shouting?? My eyes aren't that bad that i need 64 point letters to let me read them

LOL its michaelangelica please??

 

I would be more inclined to go with "Magic the Gardening" given my early love of that game. The names you where quoting certainly sound like cards in that game.

 

In reference to Paul Wheaton, I have had some lively discussions on www.permies.com and there is a ton of information there, but I am very disappointed in the underlying ethic (or lack) over there. On two occasions when the topic began to sway toward Permaculture Ethics, Paul shut the discussion down for the reason that he didn't want the group to discuss them. I like an open and up-front forum where ideas flow freely. Paul runs permies with an iron, despotic fist. If you are not interested in making a lot of money (to quote him directly) in Permaculture, he's just not interested.

Chief Cloudpiler

 

Dont get Kimbo started on permie.com or he will be into the issue of "lawns" again

 

No problem. I moved over here because of what's going on over there. Looking for something better and more ethical.

Chief Cloudpiler

 

I, and my fellow moderators here, don't give a stuff what you talk about. It is your forum after all.
It would be nice if it were vaguely relevant to Permaculture, not too self promoting, and done in a reasonably polite, respectful tone without too much flaming.
I would also like to see the site helpful to others, especially newbies; promoting information exchange and sharing personal experiences with others about Permaculture.

 

Paul does have a pretty awesome site - the chicken raising article is brilliant and I love getting his videos. I haven't used the forum apart from looking occasionally.

Maybe we could send all the shit-stirrers over there and get Paul to sort them out ;-P

 

Pebble, that's exactly what Paul is doing with the PRI forums—sending everyone who doesn't believe that "Fair Share" constitutes RED COMMUNISM over here! I think a little healthy dissensus is no bad thing, and our respective online ecosystems will probably balance out in time.

 

Fair Share

I like all three of the Permaculture Ethics that I learned about. Earthcare, Peoplecare and Direct any surplus right back into the first two. I didn't get a chance to raise any hell before whole threads were being shut down at permacultureforums.com. You can be downright crude over there so long as you rave about the right things. Ethics of Permaculture? Don't ever go there.

Earthcare + Peoplecare + syphon away any surplus, just doesn't sound very sustainable. It sounds like the same corporate charity bull that has corrupted every good effort I can think of. Permaculture is a definable thing. I have begun to rethink myself - redesign myself - because of the Ethics I've inherited from great Permaculturists. I am speaking again to my ancestors. I'm listening with ears open.

 

Good stuff Chief. I personally think one of the problems we have here in Australia is that very few people have real connections with their ancestors and many of us have no historical connection to the land. Even many of the First Australians have been removed or disconnected from their ancestral lands. All we have really tried since European settlement has really been based on European style agriculture. I mean it has obviously developed a character of it's own but it has very rarely been based on a holistic view of the land. This is a challenge to overcome as the threads of connection we do find here are in many way inappropriate and tenuous.

I remain optimistic that we can develop quickly enough to change before it is too late. I think we have a lot of 're-designing' before we get there though.

Grahame