Star Trek and Decentralized Power

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  1. Jana

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    Saw Star Trek just now...the realism was great.
    Their science was screwed tho...it was metaphysics.
    I doubt it is ever possible to have two Spocks of different ages in the same spacetime.
    I wonder what this red matter is that creates black holes.
    Also in the Enterprise, I doubt any 22nd century ship will have vast rooms of conveyance pipes. Conveyance is passe when you have point of use zeropoint technology. All instrumentation and machinery runs directly off of the Field. Waste is dematerialized and sent to the recycling center. Water can be made at point of use. The entire inner ship should be smooth and sculptured...it is ridiculous to have all those pipes going everywhere...whoever thought of that needs their head read.

    Fantastic NY Permaculture teacher Andrew Faust:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKRm3NCR ... r_embedded —Andrew Faust on decentralized power
    https://www.homebiome.com — The Center for Bioregional Living
    www.youtube.com/user/dreiky —His youtube videos.
     
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    Re: Star Trek and Decentralized Power

    mmm, yeah i watched Wolverine and wondered how deadpool could bend his arms with 3 ft adamantium swords stuck inside them... as for pipes and miles of ugly cables - i think there will always be some kind of hard wired interconnections - currently i help build and design military boats for aust and america (and have regular ethical problems) and one thing every boat has in common is to have redundant loops on all systems and back ups on the back up system so if anything fails then power and comms can be re-routed - so there is always of miles of pipes and cables - usually out in the open so they can be accessed and fixed on the fly. - The few luxury boats i have done are awesome - no wires or pipes to be seen, (lots of rainforest timber and marble/granite :( )

    In terms of over reliance on ultra technology, i have been to a few peaknik farms and i like the idea of keeping things simple with energy systems - some of them are great - analog monitoring - no problems if society fails (or if you are million light years away from earth and the flux capacitor goes down). A few of them were run off linux or windows with full system monitoring and controll - they look so cool but again what happens when the RS323 interfaces go RS?
     
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    Isn't that when R2D2 turns up and rescues the day? All you really need is a sonic screwdriver of course....
    :lol:
     
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    Well you know i have one of those.
    I managed to keep two engineers at a party enthralled about its usefulness until my fun-killer daughteter came up and blew the gaff said it was good for getting out of tight plot lines.
    No class the young.
     
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    Re: Star Trek and Decentralized Power

    Ah Ha! - even the blue box has all kinds of wires n stuff everywhere, the timelords grew a simple blue box over a time/space wormhole and it has outlasted how many Enterprises now? - The better it looks the more there is to go wrong! (No warranty on federation spaceships) :(
     
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    Re: Star Trek and Decentralized Power

    G'day
    Errr ....... it's fiction innit?
    cos if it wasn't we'd be doing it, not watching it at the movies - tho maybe not wolverine
    cheers
     
  8. Jana

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    Gene Roddenberry used NASA advisers in the creation of Star Trek so it may be a form of subtle disinformation and manipulation. A peacekeeping force that seems to do a whole lot of fighting...with lofty ideals and the moral right. Americanism on speed.

    Fact is for the last one hundred years the "explosionists, ie: the degenerative culture principle power drivers, have been stealing implosionist technology from the great inventor geniuses, and withholding, suppressing and perverting the emergence of future technology. If they hadn't have done this, and if humans had been fundamentally more interesting in sharing the wealth rather than accumulating and centralizing power, then the entire global economy would already be running off of free energy. There would only be high integrity food grown on remineralized land. Our continents would be reforested, our water cycle preserved, there would be no pollution, education would be free and civilization would make "sense." A dysfunctional system breeds dysfunctional people that require dysfunctional governship. Top-down punitive models are only necessary when we fail to provide what is necessary for healthy human society. If we cannot be all that we "are" then we become dis-eased. It is up to us to break through this matrix of exploitation, fear and greed in order to reinstate the naturally abundant, regenerous condition that is the birthright of our Universal human estate.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMASd9Vw ... annel_page Dr. Robert Beck Pt.1 Brain Waves

    https://www.icehouse.net/john34/ —John Bedini, Free Energy
    https://www.energyfromthevacuum.com/ —Tom Bearden
     
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    Stop beaming me up Scotty, I can't take it anymore :rolleyes:
     
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    Re: Star Trek and Decentralized Power

    Of course they used NASA advisors for technical advice in Star Trek - and James Bond and Star Wars and Babylon 5 andmost other sci-fi movies because... maybe they know stuff about space?
    If we had clean green technology (zero point, etc) it would be well marketed and still cost us a fortune ("this other eden" style) - there would be cars and ipods and boats and clothing and wide screen televisions - all powered all marketed all sold - all needing to be updated every two years. Do you really think big business would miss out on this one so they could keep up the cost of oil - versus all the money they could make by terraforming mars and selling canal blocks with cheap landscaping packages? All the resources on every planet they could consume? bah! - In the face of interstellar domination oil just is so passe!
     
  11. Jana

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    NASA obviously didn't collaborate on this lastest movie...the science was appalling. I can't stand people ruining science fiction with fantasy. (Boomers in Hollywood!)

    You are right that humans will attempt to capitalize on everything...and yet there are some positive movements by people who value freedom over money.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYK8z3PVgZ8 —Rushkoff on Open Sourcing

    Because of the tendency for the US Patent office to hold up new energy patents, open sourcing may be the only way to make a collective push towards a new energy economy.


    https://peswiki.com/
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdnV1umiJpo&NR=1 —Open Sourcing Free Energy Systems, Sterling Allan, pureenergysystems.com newenergynews.com
     
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    Re: Star Trek and Decentralized Power

    Well heres my fairly useless few cents worth,

    I'm not sure if its a urban myth, a conspiracy theory of sorts and my google search turned up nothing but...

    I heard that star trek is funded (maybe indirectly) by the US military for recruitment and war glamourising reasons. When you think about it they are just the US navy zooming about in space

    I've been watching a lot of the terminator, sarah connor chronicles lately. I've got a whole skynet phobia developing, which is great for someone who's a control systems engineer.

    Peace
     
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    Re: Star Trek and Decentralized Power

    On a completely different Sci Fi tack.... Dr Who and chickens.

    I have decided that my chooks must be built in a similar fashion to the TARDIS - transdimensionally. I put in relatively small amounts of food, they out our fair supplies of eggs, large supplies of poo, and still manage to increase in size. There seems to be much more output than input! Maybe they are Breatharians who take their nourishment from the sun and rain....
     

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