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  1. JoanVL

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    I think cat laws could be very simple: register them like dogs, night time curfew, and pet cats must be neutered - only registered breeders being allowed to have unneutered ones.

    We trained our cat to come to a whistle, so if he isn't in when it is getting dark, we whistle him in.

    Feral cats need to be euthanised - they have a miserable disease-ridden life anyway. In our council area you can hire a cat trap free, which is a large baited cage. We were plagued by a feral, but the next door neighbour caught it in such a trap and took it to the council pound.

    I know many people hate cats, but we find a cat keeps the house rodent-free, and ours is a good companion. A couple of bells round his neck act as a warning system to keep the local birds safe.
     
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    g'day joan,

    the trick is getting cat owners to keep their moggies in their own yards, where they can merrily kill any wildlife that happens along through daylight hours.

    we have a dog never out of the yard doesn't annoy the neighbours and never kills anything, and lets us know if anyone comes into our yard.

    len
     
  3. paradisi

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    joan

    feral cats haven't got a miserable disease ridden life. they are just about disease free, are extremely well fed and are thie biggest, fittest cats I've ever seen.

    The only thing that will get rid of the feral cat problem is a dose of feline influenza. This line of attack was aborted by earlier fedral governments because cat owners refuse to keep their animals in and the loss of a few domestic cats would have been too much of a vote loser.
     
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    Well, the feral cat my neighbour captured and took to the pound was in a bad way.....I rarely see other ferals. As for cat flu - responsible owners give their cats anti-flu vaccinations. Mind you, introducing a disease seems a dangerous thing to me - what if it affected other species? I know it would be supposed to only affect cats, but I wouldn't want to take that on trust.
     
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    this has been an interesting thread. I regularly visit ALS and here and get benifits from both. i tend to look here for serious permaculture info and exchange and ALS for day to day interest stuff. This forum has had it's share of nasty postings over the years and poster's who vent on the one subject........remember the Round - up saga. If I don't like what's going on I leave for a while...come back later and alls well
    cheers
    Cathy
     
  6. DuckyLady

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    I can give you all a site to totally avoid. It is called emailcash.com.au

    The members there have a ganging up situation in there :( They troll (deliberately pick a fight with another member). and harass people who are different to them. They make homophobic references to gays and lesbians who chat in there as well as racial discrimination and vilification. They also post material that is obscene, vulgar, indecent, sexually-orientated, pornographic, abusive, hateful, or threatening. The members also attack other members. Some even make fun and derogatory remarks about overweight and the disabled.

    The members laugh when other members try to be serious and the ones who harass the others think it is all a big joke when the website rules and regulations state otherwise. Non members don't have to join to see the fights deliberately started by members who are proud that they think they own the forum and also think it is OK to have talk about sex, drugs and whatever else when the site allows membership from the age of 13 yrs old. There are plenty of bad topics by members who think they are in thecool group when you have a look at the forum categories.
     
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    Well had a bit of a look at the site but I didn't see much smugness as such but more a level of ignorance. One thing that did stand out though (which I thought was a little funny on an ECO/gardening/rant kind of site) Was the the front page with the most recent topics etc. read as this . most views- home brewing and winemaking. least views - vegetable gardening . When I go to a home page I judge the site by it's content. I'm hoping the front page topics are not indicative of the whole content of the forum. :oops:
     
  8. elliceh

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    Fuzzy but - the home page of ALS has a list of the most RECENTLY discussed threads, not necessarily the only content or even an accurate picture of the most popular content on the whole forum. This can be a completely changed list 5 mintues later. The forum is extremely active compared to sites like PRI and EG with new threads and topics every few minutes. (Usually)

    Going by the number of views on an ALS thread is also an inaccurate way of judging the 'hot topics'. Some of those threads are years and years old, and so would, have a higher amount of views than say a day old thread on vege gardening. Pays to remember the kind of forum it is - Aussies Living Simply. It's not a dedicated gardening forum, so something like home brewing and wine making would logically be a fairly popular topic.

    I think it's ignorant to judge a website and its content/ambience/"feel" by looking at the homepage, particularly when it's in the form of a message board.
     
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    As someone who's a member of this forum, ALS and a few others, I've seen a lot happen online over the years. One point I'd like to make to those who are so quick to bag some particular forums for their management styles, try putting the shoe on the other foot for a while. If you don't like a particular forum, or the way they go about administering and moderating it, then go and start your own, there you can practice whichever methods you feel are best.

    I run my own forum and I know others who have run forums and everyone who's been in this position knows that theres a lot of work to do and issues to deal with. It's generally a thankless job that takes hours out of every day, chews up vast amounts of money, and causes extreme levels of stress on occasion.
     
  10. paradisi

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    and two months ago the most popular thread was crying the loss of the $8000 government grant for those earning more than $100,000 a year.

    add the two together and the $8000 grant would have gone up against a wall..LOL they all got their plasma TVs when they decided to get preggers and get the baby boonus
     
  11. elliceh

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    paradisi, as someone who obviously likes a debate and is a self confessed opinionated bastard, I don't see why you would take offense to that topic being discussed. Who cares what people choose to discuss? Is your problem the topic that was discussed, or the arguments that were presented, or that it was a popular thread for a while?
     
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    Think it's time you quit this line........you are starting to be rather insulting with your generalisations. i am a registered nurse and my husband was a train driver.......our combined income was over $100,000 pa gross........no plasma TV's in our house just paying off the morgage a bit quicker than some can manage.......helping 2 children get a better start than we had.The option to put in a solar grid feed system may have been possible then but only because of the subsidy, definatly not an option now...having trouble coming up with the money for rain water tanks even with the subsidies. Our combined income now is much much less but it's our choice to have a better lifestyle rather than the money. either way you make the choices that are right for you and don't bag others for their choices. I am a member on ALS and find the site interesting and helpful.
    Cathy
     
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    i agree cathy
     
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    I am sorry that you had a rough time over at ALS, and surprised. I like that site, and I like the people there. I ised to be active here, and there, but am too busy now, so I have little idea where it is going, but, FWIW, I realy liked all the people I knew there, and liked the forum/format/evolving culture at ALS.

    The web is a big place, so... lots of room to find the right place.

    Too bad my plasma TV is stuffed up at te moment.....



















    (hahahaha)
     
  15. paradisi

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    my "problem" was the people trying to portray themselves as aussies living simply and then crying because they don't qualify for the free government electricity.

    you yourself pointed out that this was an income of $1500 a week after tax. Blowing that amount of money weekly and crying about not being given a government hand out doesn't really stick with the ethos of living simply
     
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    read the thread - it was about a site called aussies living simply. blowing $1500 a week after tax isn't really living simply. I don't think I would know what to spend that much money on.

    plasma tvs is the standing joke about all those yuppies who get pregnant because their accountant advises them to
     
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    Paradisi, unless you know their individual circumstances, you can not possibly judge how people live by their income alone. Living simply is a lifestyle choice, regardless of the salary you earn. Some people have commitments that cost alot of money, not necessarily disqualifying them from living simply. It's really naive to judge others like that. Just because you personally wouldn't know what to spend the money on, doesn't mean squat. Surely it's obvious that not everyone has the same set of circumstances and as a result, the same cost of living.
     
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    the internet is where judgements are made without knowing the full story. Hence your judgement of me.

    have a look at the goals of that site - living simply has set goals of doing that - living simply. creating such a large carbon footprint that some of those people over there do is outrageous. And that is being judgemental. that is crying foul. that is being naive? no - any number of sites offer an explanation of what simple living is. earning $1500 a week after tax and not knowing where it goes is not living simply.

    and then there's the way the catty women on that site set upon one of the members because she had to use "survival food" they poo pooed that poor woman and ridiculed her for having to use sweet potato leaves as survival food. That showed me the type of people occupy that site. pretty soon the site will contain just copies of each other. know one and you'll know them all.

    And as for me being banned from there - that's how all good dicators operate - disappear those who disagree..... worked wonders in chile, argentina, china.... and it has worked in my favour. Cat protection societies all over australia are now on my side calling for cat control because sites have banned discussion. my local council is so close to actually enacting law to treat cats the same as dogs - and that's wonderful, because sites have banned discussion. and all of this has happened because I can can truthfully claim that discussion about cats has been banned by certain cretins in control. banning me has done more for cat control laws than anything else in quite a long time.

    and it wasn't just me banned from there - three friends I know of have been banned because they dared to publicly agree with me. and that is bad. me- I'm thick skinned and thick headed enough to be able to take care of myself, others I'm not sure of. It's a shame that ordinary people who came out and supported me have been banned too.

    And then there's the private messages from that site - I get a couple of notifications a week from people trying to get in touch - - the system advises me there are PMs for me, but because I'm banned I can't reply. strange how they can PM me, but I can't reply...

    elliceh - - let the cretins in control at simple aussies living know that I want to pass on a great big thank you. they have done me the biggest favour I've had for quite a while. their actions will change cat ownership in australia forever
     
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    I think you missed my point somehow. You could earn $1m per hour and still live simply. Wages are not intrinsically linked to a persons lifestyle. Imagine someone who earns $100k pa has a son or daughter, with serious medical conditions, and need certain treatments not covered by the public system. What if those expenses amounted to $100k or higher pa? Are they automatically not living simply just because they earn that amount, with no consideration for their personal expenses? My point is that you don't know peoples circumstances, and judging them by they amount that arrives in their bank each year is ignorant.
     
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    my point is that that site is set up for people who "step lightly on the planet". earning $1500 a week after tax isn't stepping lightly - both in the creation of that wealth and the expenditure of such a large amount of money.

    the front page of that site is full of grand ideals - it's too bad so many people on that site haven't read the front page. It says on the front page "We are a community focused on sustainability, permaculture, organic gardening, backyard livestock, simple living and stepping lightly on the planet."

    look up one of the carbon footprint sites and do the sums for someone earning $100,000 a year. That isn't stepping lightly. I'm judging people by the ideals of the site. The ignorance seems to be with those who have taken over the site and try to justify their exorbitent lifestyle by trying to claim it is a simple lifestyle. ROFLMAO. there is no one who can justify earning that amount of money and claim it as being a simple lifestyle. There are a hell of a lot of hypocrites on that site, one of the reasons I am glad not to be there.
     

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