Rocket stove and rocket mass heater workshop-in Melbourne

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    For quite a while i been wanting to engage in making rocket stoves
    I'm planning to convene a rocket stove and rocket mass heater workshop-in Melbourne,please get in touch if interested.
    Recently i discovered a rocket stove powered water heater in the 2010 Permaculture Diary,by Milkwood Permaculture .
    Here is a link to the Milkwood blog > https://www.milkwood.net/content/view/80/1/ where a description of a rocket water heater is found
    Here is another link to more rocket stove discussion https://www.permies.com/bb/index.php?board=10.0
    There is also a book by Ianto Evans from The Cobb cottage Company .Here is the link https://www.rocketstoves.com/
    Not having a workshop at the moment ,I'm also looking for donation of workshop space .
    Regards,Bela
     
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    Re: Rocket stove and rocket mass heater workshop-in Melbourne

    I'd love to be involved in some way, but Melbourne is a bit outside my 4 hour limit.

    Keep us posted on developments, we'll spread the word via our blog if you like.
     
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    Re: Rocket stove and rocket mass heater workshop-in Melbourne

    Thanks foggyforge. This is becoming an interest of mine too. I recon I could collect a tonne of scrap timber a day within 5 K of my home!
    A steam generator connected to the grid that cooks, heats water, produces biochar (and Bio-oil?) for the garden is the dream.

    You know there is a Listserve group on "Stoves" run by Tom Miles who runs the Biochar list.
    I have decided that my life is too short to fully investigate and research this, or join yet another internet group.:)

    Are you going to the workshop?
     
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    hi Nick, and Michaelangelica-thanks for responding .I be happy to share info,Nick.It would be great if you would post to your blog as things progress.My projects usually run concurrently
    as time-materials-knowledge becomes available.Since February 7th this year my life has been in a great state of flux -almost like a white water rafting adventure!
    I have accumulated most of the materials and resources/plans to allow the building of some cooking,space heating- water heating stoves-have lots of audio/visual material as well.. Once we have some prototypes we could combine the three into to one..Longer term this may require some adjustment on how we do things.Would really love to discuss this in another series of post,so we could all benefit.
    We could post observations ,experiences on how we may use/ adopt these to a low/no fossil fuel present/future life.Perhaps we could call these posts-
    How to adopt a rocket stove in to our life-
    Presently i don't have access to a general workshop like the one i used to have.Would love to hear from some Melbourne Permies who may be willing to share workshop space .I have a lot of tools and equipment ,could build a forge etc.Access to a lockable shed/warehouse/ workshop would be great.
    Perhaps i have not been too clear on what -i'm proposing.
    Please get in touch if you have an interest in being warm, eating cooked food,having an occasional hot shower in the future- :D so we may get together and build rocket stoves- for everyone.
    Regards ,foggyforge(Bela)
     
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    Michaelangelica,do you mean a steam generator?I think that's another level of complexity.No reason why it could not be done.Ted Pritchard has demonstrated something on the ABC.
    May have been the New inventors .I can not find it at the moment.It looked like an oven ,able to burn multiple fuels to generate electricity in remote area.(How remote will Melbourne be if fuel cost was 50-100/litre?)Here is a link to it > https://www.pritchardpower.com.au/
    I was talking of low tech from brick, or mudbrick or cob.We had all these sort of homebuilt heating -cooking systems.Based on the wisdom of traditional cultures,it has been proven and improved over the years.We used to burn all sort of scrap that could not be used for anything else.(i know i'm speaking to the converted :D )I want to build a few so we can demonstrate it's usefulness.Then run some workshops to teach others,to teach others etc.I will convene a workshop -when i find a place to use.
    Been looking for the listserve group you speak of above ,can you please post da link? :D
    regards,Bela
     
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    hey bela,
    would be interested in helping you build that rocket stove heater. was looking on www.rocketstove.org and saw their refugee stove plans which could be a good start on getting the heat process going. i remeber overseas the amount of wood being used and lack of new stuff in nicaragua, etc. it'd be great to find someone who might enjoy an outside shower to make recycling easier. anyway, stay in touch im due to be back in melbourne in october and would love to start this project with you.
    matto
     
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    Thanks for the link on the steam engine. Sorry for the typo yes steAm was meant. The engine sounds noisy and looks big and primitive. You would think we could do better 200 years after Mr. What invented it. Smoke and noise would limit its uses in suburbia where even roosters are banned (Which is racism /speciesism!! have they never heard the kookas or rainbow lorikeets at dawn!?)
    It might be OK for a factory or farm but probably not suitable for suburbia.

    The stoves list
    Of course if every bugger had one my wood supply would dry up. At the moment i have almost collected enough to re-do my deck.

    PS this is afrivolous post i made to the biochar listserve recently. i hope it will amuse you!
     
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    Thanks for the link's Mr Angel.

    You will have to become a councillor and change the local by-laws.Outlaw native birds-much to loud in the morning.
    You should make a video of it .- :D sound like my place.
    Have heard spoken of venues(where we may be able build a rocket.) that i will have to investigate.Hopefully, we will have some one along- who will document the process.
    We are advancing ,slowly. Also been dreaming of -Sterling- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_engine
    Regards,Bela
     
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    Thanks for getting in touch Matto-there will be lots of rocket workshops.Please get in touch when you get back
    Regards,Bela
     
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    Re: Rocket stove and rocket mass heater workshop-in Melbourne

    I just came across some other 'stove' links that could interest everyone

    https://the-goodlife.blogspot.com/search ... wood%20gas

    viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12491&p=58513&hilit=stove#p58513

    https://www.garlington.biz/Ray/WoodGasStove/

    https://e-smokeburnerstove.blogspot.com/

    At the high tech end
    https://www.rgpsystems.com/index.html
    https://www.rgpsystems.com/technologies.html
     
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    Hi,
    We are hoping for first rocket stove workshop to take place sometimes in January or February.
    More than likely in Healesville,Vic.
    Please send expressions of interest via PM on this list.
    Regards, Bela
     
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    you know i just realised there was a first page to this thread :rolleyes:
     
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    I wonder is there interest in a rocket stove workshop in Melbourne ?
     

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