Permaculture & Social Ecology

Discussion in 'The big picture' started by Axil, Jul 31, 2014.

  1. Axil

    Axil Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2014
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Do Permaculture Design principles play a role in social ecology?





    ...






     
  2. 9anda1f

    9anda1f Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2006
    Messages:
    3,046
    Likes Received:
    199
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    E Washington, USA
    Climate:
    Semi-Arid Shrub Steppe (BsK)
    Your definition of social ecology sounds like Permaculture to me.

    I can easily see the correlation between these statements and "energy flows and exchanges", "guilds", "relationships between the elements", etc. ... all Permaculture design principles.
     
  3. eco4560

    eco4560 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2009
    Messages:
    5,925
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Sigh…. I miss Ecodharmark. He introduced me to social ecology. I reckon it is possible to discover the same truth at the same time through different pathways and call it the same thing.
     
  4. Bryant RedHawk

    Bryant RedHawk Junior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2014
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Arkansas Senior Appraiser
    Location:
    Vilonia, Arkansas, deep in the woods
    Climate:
    USDA zone 7b,8a.
     
  5. Unmutual

    Unmutual Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2012
    Messages:
    599
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Rome's legacy sucks. Before Rome, Northern Europeans were very similar to any other indigenous culture(and according to this, Europeans may share a common ancestral tribe with the Native Americans). We had that stolen from us with nothing given in return outside of a penchant for empire building(we already had roads, medicine, plumbing, farming, coins, etc.). Now we worship a god(and only for ~1000 years at that) that doesn't even come from the same lands as us and whose followers are hell bent on creating yet another empire. Then we had the "better living through chemistry" fallacy of the 1950's, followed by the industrialization of everything from the home kitchen on up. Nobody's happy with carving out a little niche market anymore, they all want to create their own little economic empire. So yes, we as a species have grown very intelligent, but our wisdom is quite lacking, or should I say forgotten. We keep rebooting our civilization and throwing out everything old. Now most people can't even grow a potato or catch a fish.

    But back to social ecology, yep, it fits in very nicely with permaculture just not with the worldview that people are essentially dumb asses and need to have their hands held and told what's good for them.
     

Share This Page

-->