Hi all, New to forum and sort of new to permaculture (have a keen interest in horticulture, done a bit of research into permaculture but none in the hands on department). Due to family circumstances, the girlfriend and I are now living on her parents 7 acre property, which we intend on buying shortly, located in Noth East Vic. The best part is for us that the property is pretty much just a house on the block, the house is situated towards the front of the property and 75% of the land slopes towards the house., 3 dams (1 of which is spring fed, always has water and is up the very top of the property so no need for a pump, garden etc are gravity fed.) Spring water and soil has been tested, so what we have is basically bare land in which to work with. We are looking into becoming as self sufficient as possible, and was wondering where to start. How did other forum members start thier quest at becoming more self sufficient. Was it as a simple veggie patch and grew on from there or was the site first planned out and purposly designed (placing of house, gardens etc.)? Are their consultants about who can advise you? It would be interesting to see how some people have done it. Cheers, Gus.