haha, this thread is so funny,I feel like I'm at a tennis match watching little balls zoom backwards and forwards, not understanding what the hell is going on or even why. Every culture is different and has varying priorities, just as every spot of land does. Who cares what nay sayers spout, they really arent important at all. Ludi, you said it yourself-real people dont have a problem with it, its those on line 'friends' that do and they may not even know what you are talking about, then as someone else pointed out, you have paid debunkers whose job it is is to stir up and confuse people. Lets face it, there's Big money in (non)food and if everyone starts 'growing food where the people are', ie n their own backyard or a community garden, then they are going to lose money. Stop worrying about it afterall, the 'proof is in the pudding' and the people you want to encourage are the ones who live next door or down the road and you are only going to do that by example.