Hi all, So as has been predicted so comprehensively by so many "alternative" thinkers (Holmgren being just one of a large and impressive cohort), the financial sewer that is Wall Street and the "global economy" is this week imploding spectacularly. I dont know whether to laugh, gloat, cry or scream as I watch and hear "financial analysts" pontificate in the MSM, watch their shocked faces and hear them say "This could not have been predicted" and similar nonsense. Maybe now the financial world has crashed so spectacularly, we can say to the General Public and MSM: "Now that we have your attention- please take note of what is KNOWN and predicted with regard to Peak Oil and Climate Change". BTW Tim Flannery is to appear on Andrew Denton Monday Sept 22. As many would know the one time Australian of the Year has been dismissed as an "alarmist", but maybe now more heed will be paid to his wisdom. Wall Street events this week have proved that when a crash happens it CAN happen with electric speed. No "soft landings" here as the economists were soothing us with back at the start of the Sub-Prime fiasco last year. The "great delusion" we are being sold this week is that "Australia is safe. Our fundamentals are sound. We can ride it out on the back of our strong economy and mining exports". Dont believe it for a minute. Get ready. Read "The Great Crash of 1929" for background. Read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" Read "Petrodollar Warfare" Daily read Roubini's economic monitor online. Be informed And get that permie garden HAPPENING NOW! Good luck to all fellow permies - no-one likes to hear "told you so", but, given what Mollison, Holmgren and so many others have been warning us of since the 70s, can we be forgiven if we indulge in a little bit of "told you so" smugness. For decades the permie/organic/ biodynamic reality was ridiculed and denounced. Now we can take comfort that our reality is THE reality.