On Water Recycling

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  1. Baisteach

    Baisteach Junior Member

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    I was having a look at The Shooters' Party site after reading a post on OnLineOpinion about them being the only party which has an open discussion forum on their policies. I had to agree that for the life of me I couldn't see why The Greens and the major parties don't have an open forum also.

    Anyway I came across this gem from John Tingle:

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    Re: Water recycling
    « Reply #11 on: 18 March 2007, 09:21:38 » Quote

    Wozmoz

    You're right about the servant-master thing.

    When I was on radio I got roundly told off by a number of Parliamentarians, on air, and by letter, for recommending to my listeners, that when they wrote to poli's they should sign the letter

    "You remain, sir, my most humble servant....."

    When I got told by various poli's that that was an outrageous thing to do, I knew I was right!

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    What a Great Idea :eek: :) :lol:
     
  2. davo

    davo Junior Member

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    Oh yes! Very nice. :lol:

    What a pity they all do what their PARTY tells 'em to, once they've been voted into office. And if they don't quite get in, then your vote for them gets horse traded as "preferences" and goes to the highest bidder -- i.e. one of the two major parties you didn't vote for. :evil:
     
  3. Baisteach

    Baisteach Junior Member

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  4. ho-hum

    ho-hum New Member

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    bais,

    I am missing something I think.

    In OPTIONAL preferential you can vote above the line or below the line. ie vote 1 or vote entirely preferential.

    When the candidate coming last has his votes tallied it then goes to his second votes if people voted preferential, IF only a 1 vote was made the balance of those votes are applied as per his how to vote card or as his/her srutineer decides.

    This is where deals are done as to who the leading candidate directs their preferences to [if at all].

    cheers

    floot
     
  5. Michaelangelica

    Michaelangelica Junior Member

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    IN THIS NSW election YOU decide how far your preferences will flow.
    If you just put '1' the your preferences die after that.

    Personally I like preferences; I can give sympathy votes to Greens and Democrats while knowing my third choice (Labour ) will ultimately get my vote.
    But I think at least the Greens get the $1.80 for my vote.
     
  6. ho-hum

    ho-hum New Member

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    Ok,

    I did find it.

    https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/web/common.nsf/key/ResourcesSystemElectingtheParliament

    I also read stuff that this was the case in NSW in 1918 but was later changed as this favoured, at that time, the more disciplined Labour Party.

    floot
     
  7. Chriswaterguy

    Chriswaterguy Junior Member

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    Yes and no...

    This is true for NSW Legislative Council (the Upper House) when you vote above the line - according to the explanation I got from my local Greens candidate.

    "scrutineer decides" doesn't apply here though - if there's clearly only a 1, above the line, it goes according to the preferences registered by the party voted for.

    This is true for the Legislative Assembly (the Lower House), if you check that page carefully.

    Preferences are not allocated for the lower house, but deals are still done regarding what a party tells their voters to do.

    I'd like to see how-to-vote cards explain clearly that you choose your own preferences, and that the order shown is a suggestion only.

    Cheers,
    Chris
     
  8. ho-hum

    ho-hum New Member

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    Chris,

    Welcome to the forum... nice wiki site too!!!

    floot
     
  9. Chriswaterguy

    Chriswaterguy Junior Member

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    Collaborate?

    Glad you like it, floot!

    Check the Partners page - which is a work in progress, but it gives an idea of how we work and who we're working with. What do you think about the Permaculture Research Institute of Australia and Appropedia finding ways to work together?
     
  10. ho-hum

    ho-hum New Member

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    Chriswaterguy,

    You would have to contact the PIA to find out. We did have a ''permapedia'' set-up to translate information off these pages into the permapedia but I think it died due to lack of widespread support.

    I supported it but in the wash-up I think it was down to 3 or 4 of us.

    Murray, is the admin here and can give you more info.


    For mine, I would like to see something like this happen..

    cheers

    floot
     
  11. murray

    murray Junior Member

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    floot is 100% correct.

    chris - you can contact PRI at [email protected] if you want to talk to them.
     

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