Yeah, when I do something new and different, I usually take a long time to get it done. Some of it is just cold feet, but I have learnt that if I am not sure about it, its best to wait,question people who should know something about it, have a look around to see what others have done and how it went. My neighbour came over to see me after work on Saturday because Amy got out again. Well they both got out of their pen through a dirty big hole they managed to dig under the gate.She then jumps the fence and goes visiting the neigbour who wasnt at all fussed about it til she started wandering down the front of his section by the road, so....he tied her up in his back yard where he could keep an eye on her and that where I found her when I got home. Jack was still in My backyard being the good boy he is but still he scampered over to the dog box even though he couldnt get in due to all the glass I have stashed in there. He, at least lets me know that He knows he has been naughty. She on the other hand squints her eyes wags her entire body and Smiles. I kid you not! She smiles like she is saying "I've been naughty but you arent going to be angry with lil' ol' me, are you?" It Is hard to be stern when the damn bitch smiles so lovingly at you! We had a good chat about the glasshouse and the base of it in particular, which is the main part that has been worrying me. He now works for a concreting company and we discussed the merits of a concrete skirting wall versus a post and bearer system and decided that it would be better to go with the posts and original bearers....I just couldnt figure out how deep the posts should go to be stable. They will be round 500 above ground so he suggested I put them at around 300 deep with concrete footings, so I will be going with that. When I got the last slab for the kitchen benches, my friend threw in a freebee bit of slab that I didnt really want, my neighbour wanted to have this so we hauled it out from in front of the garage to where he could cut it up for what he wanted-to go around his letterbox. This had been bowled over by some visitor when they were celebrating his wifes' birthday. Apparently this is the third time somebody has knocked it over so he has set it back alittle more away from the driveway and up on a concrete platform. So far he hasnt put the bits of slab up so I'm not sure what he is going to do with it yet.(I just went out to see if he had finished this little project but he hasnt). I might be able to get some of the left over bits of concrete they often get after doing a delivery, so will have to get a key for the gate cut for him. I am putting this off til after winter too so I can try to be there when they do have surpluses. Apparently, these usually just get dumped in their yard and...not too sure what they do with it after that. I definitely have a need for concrete in any quantity.....after winter. I did manage to finish the back steps up to the garden this week and the curved wall on the other side of the water tank path, using bought bags of concrete.They arent perfect, ( neither am I) but look bloody good all the same. And yes I will put some pics of them on my blog at some point in the not too distant future. Tomorrow is induction day at the nursery so my year is now officially over. I dont have a life over winter, all I do is work...and plan my next load of excitement.