Massive permaculture movement in Russia

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    I had never heard of this "movement" before (or the "Ringing Cedars" series). What a beautiful and inspiring article - thank you for sharing...

    I was intrigued by one of the comments (by zoneonesustainableliving) that stated "I often think Bill Mollison (father of Permaculture movement) was right when he declared that the first world countries would be the third world countries of the future". I have recently had similar concerns (but, think the reasoning for the conclusion would be more powerful coming from a respected expert). Does anyone know where (or in what context) Bill Mollison made this statement? I tried to find this quote (to verify it directly), but could not...
     
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    Bill also has a reputation for colourful and difficult to verify statements - so take it with a grain of salt.

    43% of statistics are invented on the spot. Or I could have just made that up....
     
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    Yeah, I'd like to see some reliable information to back up the stats in the link in post 1. I had a look online and couldn't find anything that didn't link back to the Anastasia books. Doesn't mean they are wrong, but we should exercise some caution.

    On the other hand, I've enjoyed Dmitri Orlov's work, looking at post-USSR collapse and why Russians are much better equipped for the powerdown than the US (which he thinks is pre-collapse). This is largely because of the village structures that still exist, where communities are interdependent for food, heating fuel, resource sharing etc, and because so many people still know how to grow food and live simply.

    'Our Village' https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=11CHdKaxGZRAN2ia99Qy03KuzNyTJcDmVEDF7n53XxRQ

    Other writings at https://cluborlov.blogspot.com
     
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    Russia has allowed people to go to country areas, gave them land, and allows the people to work permaculture in a co-op system that stretches across their huge country. As the farmer new to the land makes food, it pays for the land he was given. It has sparked a large exodus from the major cities so people can find work in the country.
     
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    ISTM there are many converging movements all looking at growing stuff and changing our views on what and how we make and eat food.
    You have the schools garden programs
    https://www.kitchengardenfoundation.org.au/
    lifestyle programmes like River Cottage
    https://www.iinet.net.au/my/media/abc/
    the guerilla gardening movement
    https://www.guerrillagardening.org/
    The slow food movement
    https://slowfoodaustralia.com.au/
    https://www.slowfood.com/
    The organic gardening movement
    https://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/
    landshare programs
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardeni.../Landshare-schemes-Share-and-share-alike.html
    WWOOF
    https://www.wwoof.com.au/
    The rise of small farmers markets and the green miles movement
    https://www.farmersmarkets.org.au/
    The rise of Green politics
    https://www.themonthly.com.au/greening-politics-bob-brown-2134
    The renaissance in scientific herbal research
    https://www.ijppsjournal.com/Vol4Suppl1/3289.pdf
    Increasing awareness and research on new crops and the willingness of many to try new foods.
    https://www.newcrops.uq.edu.au/acotanc/papers/meyer.htm
    The preservation of old crops and species
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080420110157.htm
    Seed saving
    The Occupy movement, the environment movement, bio-dynamics,increasing vegetarianism, scepticism of corporate press releases, the free flow and sharing of information and ideas, the concept of biosecurity, increasing awareness of the hazards of many industrial agricultural and pharmaceutical chemicals (https://www.westonaprice.org/thumbs-up-reviews/poisoned-for-profit-by-philip-and-alice-shabecoff) increasing awareness of the interconnectedness of all things (Dirk gently?? https://www.wwoof.com.au/)
    Articles like this
    The future of food
    https://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2012/jan/22/future-of-food-john-vidal
     
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    Rewilding of Homo sapiens.
     
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    Transition towns. Farmers markets.Community gardens.
     
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