Major erosion problem – do you have any spare seeds?

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  1. 4G's

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    Hi,
    I have major erosion issue and need at least 1000 tree seed/seedlings.

    I am chasing:
    [FONT=&quot]Leucaena Leucocephala
    Albizia Lophantha[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Albizia lebbek (sirus tree)
    Acacia Saligna
    Casurina Equisetifotia
    Leucaena Shannoni
    Weeping willow - salix baylonica
    Cricket bat willow - salaxalba coerulea
    Populus alba (white poplar)
    populus nigra [/FONT]

    Or any other cuttings or seeds that can help stabilize soil and fight erosion. Happy to pay for postage.

    Please PM me if you can help. Thanks in advance.
     
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    If you have an erosion problem the above seeds won't help you. The trees will take a long time to grow and hold down the soil. You need to include things like Lupine, and Pampas Grass to start holding the soil while the trees take root.

    You need some perennials with a mixture of root types.
     
  3. S.O.P

    S.O.P Moderator

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    Leucaena and Albizia seed will be maturing soon. There's some Leucaena up the road from my house, not sure of the type.

    Have you considered vetiver? Vetiver Soil Erosion Control. Vetiver Plant Suppliers.
    Or you could get slips off someone if they are offering. You may need thousands though.
     
  4. 4G's

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    No, I hadn't heard about the veticon erosion solution. Thanks for letting me know. I will look into it.

    Regarding the Leucaena and Albizia, yes please. I am happy to wait and pay for postage.

    What do you mean about slips? What are they?
     
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    Location:
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    Climate:
    Inland maritime/hot/dry/frosty
    If you have willow locally you should be able to propagate from cuttings in water, or even just put them straight into the ground if you have irrigation.
     
  6. S.O.P

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    Slips are a type of propagation method for vetiver.

    For example, and I did this on Monday, you dig into a chunk of vetiver, then tear it apart with your hands, and end up with single pieces of grass with some roots attached. That's a slip. Then you pot it up.

    I did 60 and that took long enough. If you look into vetiver propagation, there seems to be other ways to do it which don't involve physical labour. If you had 2 people working at it, lots of pots and potting mix, you could probably crank out several hundred a day if you had enough propagation material.
     
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    The clump and the slips. Edit: The clump is about, guessing, a 1/10, maybe a 1/15th of the clump it came from.
     
  8. 4G's

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    Thanks S.O.P.

    Anyone know where I can get a clump of Vetiver from - in brisbane?
    I know I can buy seedlings from Dr Paul -but I need quite alot of these...

    I have many large erosion issues.
    There is one coming downhill from my neighbour. The drop is about 10m - runs about 50m long and is about 3m wide....
    and there are more....

    Any additional info/advice for free/cheap solutions - will be muchly appreciated.
     
  9. S.O.P

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    Well, I could recommend the individual I got these from. Quite a lovely fellow that lives in Narangba. I've exchanged things so I can take things from his garden though he would probably offer his excess in respect of permaculture principles.

    I've damaged one of his clumps, and have 60 slips. I would offer some of mine but you would be better off grabbing a large chunk, rushing it home and splitting there or onsite if you bring potting mix.

    With your problems, especially the large ones, what does an expert say? Even a Google expert? Will the plants be established in time? Seems like a lot of water must be moving through there.

    It's not for me to offer his grass to you, check out www.biochar.net and contact him with an exchange of goods or services.
     
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    5 day growth from the clump pictured above:

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  11. 4G's

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    Thanks all for your post and ideas.
    If anyone has any more spare trees seeds that are great for erosion/soil stability, please let me know. I have room for many more.
    thanks
     
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    remember to start at the top of the catchment

    This may require some innovative and creative dealings with your neigbhours but generally this is the only way of dealing with an entropy loss in the system! I guess you can see lots of water there now?
    will send more seeds soon
    lomandra is the native equivilant of vetiver with a bush tucker yield8) ,ive got heaps!
    my vetiver planted in nov is struggling perhaps it doesnt like comfrey?
     
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    Which bit of lomandra is edible? I knew you could use it in basket construction, but I didn't know it was a food.
     
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    I didn't know lomandra worked like vertiver! I have a few erosion probs too. I also didn't know you could eat it.
     
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    You eat the white part of the stalk. I've eaten mine at home. Let's just say, only if you are starving.

    Lomandra is a great soil stabiliser, but there is no way it grows as fast as vetiver.
     
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    Lomandra Longifolia has a spiky seed stalk that you heat over a naked flame to burn off the spikes and modify the starches of the quite large seeds which make ok bush tucker (i presume low GI)
     
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    Interesting. Well then, 2 parts are edible.

    What about Lomandra hystrix? Same deal?
     
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    Andrew, for sure. More than happy to give Lomandra a go. (especially as its a native and bush tucker.)
    Yes, have spoken to our neighbour where some of the erosion starts and he is committed also to solving the issue. I guess we need a plan - hence all the plants.
    I have put in the mail some seeds and another reply paid envelope. (to fill with more goodies) :)
    Thanks again for all your advice and help.
     
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    Thats excellent you shall be a role model for the darling downs will send more seeds!
    keep your eyes peeled for bunya nuts i got some in Grafton last week (doing master tree growers course with Rowen Ried ,a hero of mine)Gvt dpts are agreat place to steal seeds from,so im hoping to get more stuff from ag station today.
    dunno bout the hystrix i know the xanthorea flowers can have a severe alkoliod at times so proceed with caution when eating bush tucker
     

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