That really sucks I think that pests on permaculture property are some of the luckiest in the country. We had some pidgeons move into our chicken coop and I had to go through a major acceptance stage. First I tried keeping them out, shooing them off and chasing them away, fake birds of prey, netting etc etc - those things are like rats, they resisted it all. One day I just came to terms with it, and now I have flock of fat, glossy, pet bloody pidgeons - they all have names, lol. We also have rats. Huge, fat, organic, hydroponically fed rats. They'd probably be a delicacy in some societies. They run down the patio, slide down the pipes, drink the water from the fish tanks and eat the tops off our aquaponic seedlings. Aghhh! The amount of money they waste and the tears of frustration at all that hard work and energy down the drain. Practicising permaculture gives me a real appreciation for those people that have come before us and had to live off the land, what a pita natural 'disasters' and 'pests' are. What got your chooks?