Hello to all from Serbia

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  1. Zed McJack

    Zed McJack Junior Member

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    Hello guys,

    I am from Serbia and I'd like to introduce myself.

    I am 42 years old programmer in small town in northern part of Serbia.
    Having lasting drive to move out of town and to the nature I am considering buying something like 1HA of land that is 1/2 orchard and 1/2 in corn right now.
    It's not far away from this town but it's without electricity, water pipes and even proper road.
    I am not really going to move away from town as my family is not even considering something like that, but what I really like is that that orchard have not been sprayed for last 5 years, so it's partly overgrown with differnt varieties of plants and trees.

    Oops I expanded introduction but anyway let me know what do you think should I buy it?

    Is there some users here from Balkan area or even from Serbia? I 've seen post from Portugal and there are something like three Portugese here so I doubt I'll find someone from my country.

    Best regards to all

    Zed
     
  2. gemjill

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    Re: Hello to all from Serbia

    G'day Zed and welcome to the forum
    Sounds like you'd be able to live in town while fixing up the property?
    Lots of people in Australia live places where you have to generate your own electricity - wind or solar.
    The water pipes might be a big expensive job, but starting from scratch you can include a grey-water retrieval system, composting toilets etc. to get the best use from your water.
    The land is obviously productive, so you can grow crops as well as the fruit trees.
    Good luck with what you decide and let us know your progress
    cheers
     
  3. Zed McJack

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    Re: Hello to all from Serbia

    Thanks gemjill for welcome and comment.

    Apart from electricity, water and road problem, there is a lot of theft out there at the fields. I hope I wont find out that most of yields are siezed by somone else, but you never know for sure.
    Yep, the land is ok, not 1st class though as it goes for something like 14.000 Euros for HA, but this one is just ok.

    I thought about solar and wind generators but I am afraid that as soon as I put it there someone will steal it.
    Regards water, there is a well at the property so I have kind of reservoir for watering plants but I doubt its safe for drinking.

    I called last night the owner and he rised the price a bit as I don't have money for both halves though I proposed to repay the rest by next year. So now its 3500 Euros for that fine neglected orchard and 2600 for bare land (the other half). They have buyers for the bare land, actually the other buyer would buy the orchard as well if they clean up the land. :shock:
    Maybe I should just go for the orchard? I just thought it is too small.


    I am looking forward to hear what others think about this.
     
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    Re: Hello to all from Serbia

    Welcome Zed, from one of the Portuguese in the forum!
    It does sound like an interesting project, and I'm sure that with time and dedication you may turn it into your little piece of Paradise. Is it flat or on a slope? I've seen very interesting projects done with solar panels, over here.
     
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    Re: Hello to all from Serbia

    Hello WolfJag and thanks for welcome,

    It's rather flat as Vojvodina is (Northern part of Serbia), but there is a deppresion - ditch in the southern part of the land and by seeing the reeds grow there I could say the water is collecting there as well. Any ideas what could/should I do with it?

    I'll see how it will develop so if it all goes well I might invest in solar panels later but first I have to buy it :lol:
     
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    Re: Hello to all from Serbia

    Zed
    What is the climate like in your part of Serbia?
    How expensive is land on average?
    Have your country's racial tensions eased?

    BUY the land & send some pics.
     
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    Re: Hello to all from Serbia

    The climate is temperate or continental as would we say here.
    Temperature range is from +35C in the summer to -20C in the winter.

    The land is very expensive if you are living average life in Serbia as the common montly salary is about 200-300 Euros.
    The prices I stated in one of the posts above so you can see for your self.
    On the other hand, the lend is cheap, if you compare it to the prices in EU, that are 2-3 or even 5 times higher. For example the usual speculation was to invest money in real estate or land in Bulgaria when that country was approaching joining EU as the prices leveled up as soon as Bulgaria became the member of EU.

    Regards tensions we didn't have racial tensions here but national or religious tensions. I could probably write a book about it, but I doubt it's worth including that topic here.
    Northern part of Serbia is mixture of dosen nationalities and I doubt we have more tensions then it's usual in Alabama, Turkey, Germany or China.

    I am still thinking should I just buy orchard or both parts of land. But this week I should decide.
     
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    Re: Hello to all from Serbia

    That's very cold by Australian standards. Most areas would be Mediterranean climate or above (zones 8. 9. 10 USA)
    You might get below freezing temps(-20) in the mountains occasionally, but most are comparatively low -->4000m

    You can buy a few acres here--in the 'bush'-- for around $40,000. (the pension is about > $20,000; average median salary about $50,000PA) Good land, with water- prices are much higher. It can cost $AUD300,000-500,000 to 1+m for a home close to the major cities. I saw on USA TV the other day nice homes going there for $100,ooo! (US).

    Every country seems to have racial tensions,--Australia does better than most-- but i thought you guys were shooting each other at one stage?

    Good luck with your land purchase, may the force be with you.
     
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    Re: Hello to all from Serbia

    Hi Zed,

    What are the neighbours like? Would you get to know them? Maybe you can all be looking at keeping an eye out on each other's land for people stealing things? Community seems a really important part of owning land and growing food.
     
  10. Zed McJack

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    Hi pebble,

    most of farmers are based in town and they usually go to the land just for work. There are a couple of them that have their houses out of town, but this way of living was first discouraged after the WW2 because there was limit on how much land everyone could have. And then there was(is) the world wide trend of rural to urban movement.
    So the only big land owner was the state itself and that land was used by agricultural companies as we had socialism as political system.
    Most of farmers today are trying to grow bigger and to acquire more land but it's slow process with very weak economy and unstable political and social environment.

    So there are a couple of them but they are really scattered and I doubt they can watch all of it. Neighbouring farmers that do have land around my desired 1HA would probably do that but I am yet to see that myself.
     
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    Ah, that would be tricky then. Still it is a good thing to have land and see what you can do. If you are not living there, so you need electricity and other mod cons?
     
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    Re: Hello to all from Serbia

    Not right away, but it is nice to know that you can have it if opportunity to move arise.
    If nothing else mobile network is available there so I am not completely cut off and If county officials expand that gravel road a bit further to my side that would be awesome! :idea: :wink:
     

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