You use guns on people? I take a call at 3.00 am. from a neighbour of my farm near town 20 km away that wild dogs are attacking their cattle and would I come and shoot them. They have no guns because the shit they have to go through to prove that they are honest people and the archaic storage regulations. Next day , can I put an old horse down as it can't get up, a dog that is too old to work and has health problems and needs euthenasing, a cow that has tried to calve and both will not survive. The list continues. I don't live in a city or town and a gun is to put animals out of their misery or for food. I am so fed up with the over-regulation of firearms here as they relate to the 95% of the population that reside in towns and cities. Would you rather I bludgeon my old horse or dog , companion and work-mate of 10-20 odd years with a lump of wood or a sledge hammer? You bartards! Do you think that we can afford $20000 a year odd in vet bills for gallons of green dream, vet fees and 10000 km of vet travel? Would you rather die from an unseen bullet or a slow injection or to just starve to death? If I kill a beast for rations do you want me to electrocute it, stick it and let it bleed to death or something as barbaric. Get real you unrealistic pricks, why would you need a gun in the city or suburbia? 90% of Australians live in cities or suburbia, why do they require a gun? Only 5% of Australians are involved in rural industries or employment. Why cause all this grief for those that need these tools as part of their occupation and for the benefit of their charges. Sure, get guns out of suburbia , but leave the genuine tool users alone! I am so sick of this gun debate bullshit which always refers to those used for crime, city dwellers and militia. There is no debate, why have a gun if it's not a necessary part of your work and for the benefit of all society? It's never been part of our constitution. A rifle in a modern military invasion is about as useful as a pinch of shit in a thunder-storm anyway. The gun laws introduced here in Australia have not lessened gun related crimes as they will always either make or obtain illegal weapons for criminal intent. Any idiot can make a weapon. Firearm or other. Different rules should apply here. 99% of the population occupies 1% of the land area. We are amongst the most urbanised population in the world, you may think of the Aussie of the outback, but they are less than 1% of the human population here. Guns are for the 18 and 1900's. Words and wealth have far more power.