Global Warming: How to Win the Argument About Climate Change

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  1. Michaelangelica

    Michaelangelica Junior Member

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    I am just about over it too MA. Lets just get on with saving the planet because it is worth saving and forget climate change as a reason for change. Lets stop ripping carbon out of the earth because it is stupid to use in 100 years what it took a million to make and lets us plant more trees because it adds balance in a planet that has destroyed trees. There are so many more reasons to do these things we do without the need for debate on climate change. IMO
     
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    You are going to have to monetise that sentence, pp.
     
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    Yep, and let's also bury some carbon

    Still i find the psychology of it all fascinating.
    Once it was thought if we were attacked from outer-space we would all band together to fight a common enemy. I don't think that any more
     
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    "How to win the argument." Stop trying to win the argument and get on with changing our lives.

    In my opinion. :)
     
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    I agree with Ludi.
    True change is made by simply doing,getting on with it and not even trying to win an argument.
    There are always going to be those who disagree with you (and that is as it should be), so just concentrate on what you know will leave things better than you found them and leave the redfaced arguments to those who do only that.
     
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    There are a couple good websites which address the common arguments, and one can simply link to them. If the arguing person is really interested in the issue, they'll read the webpages. If they aren't really interested, then debating with them won't do any good anyway and will just wear you out. :)

    A couple websites which cover most of what folks want to debate:

    https://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

    https://grist.org/series/skeptics/
     
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    What makes it even more great was that his research was funded by the Koch Bros ...lol
     
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    Sadly, given that the issue is always framed as "an argument", it is not something I think I want to be a part of. IMO arguing never leads to a resolution.
     
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    We could start an argument about that...
     
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    People will need a pretty solid issue to change, the alternatives are often seen as too "alternative" for everyday people to take seriously (whether serious or not) - thus the argument about spirituality, etc with teaching permaculture.

    I see it all as an equation eg: 50% of people might like permaculture, 75% of those might agree with the idea of climate change, 50% 0f those might like what our government is doing about climate change, 50% of these might believe in some form of spirituality, and 50% might like to explore their beliefs further, 25% of these people would put gardening and "god" together - yeah i'm in the minority (0.012% by my ridiculous reconning).

    Whether the weather be cold
    Or whether the weather be hot
    We'll weather the weather whatever the weather
    Whether we like it or not
     
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    You always make me laugh eco :)
     

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