Hi all have been busy on our ten acre property in Victoria planting over 1000 tag and olive trees as part of an initial windbreak we need for our long term goal of starting a pyo cane berry farm. My concept at the moment is just that , a concept. We will be going ahead with the berries once some soil rehab and improvement has been carried out and we are happy the windbreak is becoming effective. We plan on having the berries initially on only perhaps 1-2 acres at most. My idea is plant a proportion of the rear of the property with figs and mulberries to house geese and ducks which I was hoping to graze in the berry rows in the off season to keep grass and pests down, improve fertility etc etc. Have purchased a maremma to protect the birds also. The reason I am posting this here to ask others what they think of this idea, is it simply an ideal or do you think this could work well. To me it seems counter productive to ride up and down the rows all year with a mower when birds do a great job. I was considering Toulouse geese due to their apparent quite nature and perhaps aylesbury ducks to help control bugs better that geese. Any suggestion on the 3-4 acres on trees you would plant as a feed and shade substitute to the birds diet during the summer when they won't be able to graze the berry rows. Ok people don't hold back, I'm very keen on the berry idea, however I want to look at the bird idea wisely to see if they would work well as a system. I have not seen such a system like this on a scale larger than a backyard. Thanks for your time.