ok saw this today while doing a bus/train trip from cooroy to caboolture, you can check it out yourselves and see if it fits the bill, they say they have organic certification, me i just haven't got the time to research their site rite now. :?: here's the link: https://www.cooeesales.com.au/timber.treatment.htm just that permies seem to be looking for treatments for timber this may fit, if it does and you buy or visit them i wonder if you might tell them about me and my missus we could sure as hell use some food money. :!: can't see any harm in that it may just help a fellow p/cer out. apart from that i have absolutely no affiliatation with them. i tell ya' the things you see lookin' out a bus window hey :wink: len :?