WARNING: Not a thread for the staunchly scientific... Putting aside the debate about how 'woo-woo' is holding permaculture back from mainstream adoption I'd like to discuss a few things metaphysical or perhaps spiritual. I'm midway through a new book by Alanna Moore called Sensitive Permaculture: Cultivating the way of the sacred Earth. and it is challenging me. Now Alanna is a pretty well respected Permie as fa as I can gather so... I'm one of these folks who have pretty much been raised as an non-god fearing scientist. Where I came from fairies really were a myth, even fodder for derision. But, I'm not so sure. I'm certainly convinced that the basic premise behind their existence and care is a good enough reason to entertain their 'sort-of' existence - a kind of scientific/psychological acceptance that believing in them could do us all a lot of good. I have some difficulty believing in them as anything more than manifestations of a certain kind of spiritual psychology. I really want to believe in them, but have difficulty with that final commitment. I suspect this is exactly the physiology that dis-allows me from seeing them or 'seeing' them. That is something I'm interested in discussing, and anyone else's similar experiences. Further to that though i am particularly interested in the concept of creating/adopting/nurturing sacred places both near and within my own gardens. Anyone care to enter into a frank discussion about these things (please without reducing it to an argument about woo-woo in permaculture.) Happy to let the topic expand and develop. For example, the sort of spiritual/esoteric thoughts and beliefs that actually make it into actions and practices on the ground. In the meantime I'm off to see if i can chat with some of the fairies I'm sure are lurking around our place.