Brian Brian you should turn your web site into a BLOG then we could follow and visit every day . Bryant this Autumn (start of our wet season) I planned on setting up three of the open bottomed worm compounds in the centre of my mandala veg garden with the frog pond in the centre of the patch and the perennial plants between them (Rhubarb ect). I have one of my compounds in under a old lemon tree and it has completely transformed the old neglected tree into a virtual monster . I brought some lovely big night crawlers home from my last trip away and was organising a house for them , but Mrs Terra put the shade house water on and they died in the little containers , they were massive real shame . After reading these posts the next lot will just go in a open bottom set up with plenty of space .