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  1. danielr

    danielr Junior Member

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    Hi there I have taken active interest into learning permaculture for quite some time now. But due to a busy IT career haven't managed to get there, but im taking time out now to do so.

    I would like to someday converge knowledge in both permaculture and land management, as Im also interested in bush regeneration, though im assuming permaculture also involves this. I would love to someday consult on projects (though actually doing the work), fixing up the land here and overseas. It's quite interesting to see the work that is already happening to help places overseas.

    I am researching in courses for next year, I would like to work up to a permaculture diploma if that is the advanced topics.

    For now I may be interested in doing a PDC aswell as taking some online study. The issue is I'm in Sydney and most of these courses are not local so would be quite hard to do fulltime study in these areas. I just tried to bring up the unsw ecoliving centre but the site is down.

    Would anyone be able to recommend courses starting around Feb next year, I believe there is a PDC course in melbourne which would still allow me to be working at the same time as i just need to be online, but it's at a bad time of the year for me and can't get time off.

    The PDC available with Geoff seems like a goer though after travel and accomodation it will total up to the cost of a fulltime course ! I'm hoping to have march available to me to actually manage to travel up there in time.

    Im also looking into online courses like these as it would allow me to continue with my busy life and I work better researching / learning online rather than in a classroom.

    https://www.acs.edu.au/courses/product.aspx?id=509
    https://www.acs.edu.au/courses/product.aspx?id=194

    Would anyone recommend these types of courses ? Or do I have to do something like the Certificate 4 at Tafe. I'm also still looking to see if these is any distance course at the unis aswell, as I'd love to have the practical aswell as theory.


    Here is a list of the PDC courses and long courses I am considering so need to decide quickly.

    https://www.permaculture.org.au/index.php?page_id=195

    https://www.tafensw.edu.au/howex/servlet ... rseNo=9372

    https://www.permaculturevisions.com/

    https://www.permaforesttrust.org.au/apt/

    https://permaculture.com.au/web/index.ph ... &Itemid=40

    https://permaculture.com.au/web/index.ph ... &Itemid=36

    https://www.csu.edu.au/courses/undergrad ... riculture/

    There is also one interesting question in regards to permaculture designs. Do you have to be a creative, ie a graphical designer / technical drawer to be studying these types of course ? Im more on the technical side of things, so I cant hand draw and could only manage to rely on diagram design software which I currently already use for computer networks.

    Let me know your thoughts thanks.
     
  2. dylanz

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    Funny you mention that you come out of the IT field, as another forum member and I were chatting, and we both do too. I'm a software engineer myself, and whilst the money is good, it's not necessarily "fulfilling" work :)

    Oh, and I couldn't draw a stick figure if you asked me to. My drawing and design skills don't exist. My ASCII art is fresh though... and I have the whole figlet library on my local box. Ha !

    I live in NZ, and am headed to the PDC in Melbourne in January. These are basically 2 of the 3 weeks I have off every year... and, I've been saving my loot just for this. I'd recommend trying to get some time off too and just go for it... but, you may want to see if anybody has had any good experiences with correspondence courses.

    Cheers !
     
  3. ecodharmamark

    ecodharmamark Junior Member

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    G'day danielr :)

    Welcome to the PRI Forum.

    You may wish to put this one on your list of potential PDCs:

    https://www.cydoniapermaculture.com.au/PDC.html

    Since completing the Bendigo 2005 PDC I have worked hard at integrating sustainable (permacultural) design concepts into the plans (and minds) of all that I come into contact with. This includes my workplace and university (see links below).

    Ecological sustainability and permaculture go hand-in-hand. We humans are part of the wider ecology; there is no point of delineation. We live courtesy of an ecology and not an economy.

    You don't need to be able to draw to become a fantastic permaculture designer. Permaculturalists from all around the globe have varied and many different points of expertise. As Holmgren once said, we should try to be a "jack of all trades, and a master of at least one". Just look at the collective talent of those that regularly post here - HUGE pool!

    Good luck with your plans for the future, and enjoy the journey.

    Hooroo, Mark.
     
  4. Fern O.

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    hi danielr

    There's a fair bit happening in Sydney permaculture wise! There are certainly PDCs in Sydney, in fact there's one running before the 9th Australian Permaculture Convergence (APC9 will be held in Sydney from March 20th to 25th. see: https://www.apc9.org.au )

    This PDC running before the convergence is also in Sydney and there's some great teachers on this course (Rowe Morrow, John Champagne, and i think Geoff Lawton is on it too), and it would be well worth doing. I think it's a weekend course too and it starts in February.
    Contact Penny Pyett at Permaculture North (that's the permaculture organisation in North Sydney that's organising the convergence). I can give you her email if you PM me.

    Where abouts in Sydney are you? As there's also other permaculture organisations in Sydney (Permaculture Sydney West, Permaculture Sydney Basin...)

    Rosemary Morrow also holds regular PDCs in the Blue Mountains. These are not intensives (usually held over many weekends). I'd definately recommend doing a PDC with Rowe. Have a look at her book "Earth Users Guide to Permaculture". Her courses are very valuable, she is a very knowledgeable and experienced permaculturist and she somehow manages to charge far less than half the price of Geoff Lawtons.
    [I think this is because they are not intensives, and she doesn't need to cover food and accommodation costs, and I think her PDCs are also subsidised by the local community house in the Blue Mountains]

    There's also the PDCs that John Champagne runs on the South Coast of NSW. John's a great teacher :D Have a look at https://www.permaculturedesign.com.au

    But the PDC in Sydney before the convergence, sounds like the best one for you (you get Rowe Morrow, John Champagne and i think Geoff too!)

    Cheers
    Fern

    PS. I run PDCs and other permaculture courses down in the Otways (Southwest Victoria), but that's a bit far from Sydney :)
     
  5. danielr

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    Hi yes I just discovered permaculture north and am considering joining, I am actually right near the north ryde group :) I don't see any information about the PDC course up on the site ? How do I register for it ? It would be good to do the big trip up to the channon but very expensive. I did manage to read about rosemary morrow but no possible way to find out about her courses or a contact.

    Also what is the conference all about, can anybody attend to that ? I believe it's also about 20 mins away from me !

    Doing the PDC late in march might make it impossible for me to decide to do some further study in it as I believe I have to do it now, i wouldnt be able to use the PDC as a credit. Is there anywhere I can find people who have had good experiences with online permaculture courses ? The two big ones i know about are in northern nsw so obviouslly wouldnt allow me to keep a day job , and require a huge life change :)

    Thanks everyone for the responses.
     
  6. Fern O.

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    hi daniel

    The Sydney PDC starts in February, the conference is in late March.
    Permaculture North is a great organisation, well worth joining.
    https://www.permaculturenorth.org.au

    contact penny pyett, she's convening the Sydney PDC [email protected]
    Put "Sydney PDC" in the subject heading.

    If you can't get hold of her from this email, I can give you further contact details. You also could contact John Champagne about it too. his contact details are on https://www.permaculturedesign.com.au

    You'll find out all about the permaculture convergence when you go along to Permaculture North meetings. You possibly could help the tech team out for the conference. They want someone with CSS skills (if this is the right terminology for rigging up a pay online system). There's another thread on this forum about APC9... check it out :) I think there's a tour up north to visit permaculture properties after the conference.

    I'll PM Rowe Morrow's email to you.

    cheers
    Fern
     
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    Milkwood Permaculture PDC & KDC, Mudgee NSW March/April

    G'day,

    Following APC9 Milkwood Permaculture of of Mudgee are holding a Permaculture Institute-certified Permaculture Design Certificate Course from the
    2-16th April 2008 (https://www.milkwoodpermaculture.co...ure-design-certificate---mudgee---apr-08.html).

    Immediately prior to this will be Keyline Design Course (KDC) from 27-29th March 2008 (https://www.milkwoodpermaculture.com.au/courses/courses/keyline-design-course---mudgee---mar-08.html).

    For more information please contact Nick and Kirsten at https://www.milkwoodpermaculture.com.au
     
  9. derekh

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    DanielR and DylanZ,

    Ditto here for another one in the IT field who doesn't find the work 'fulfilling' and yearns for something else and can't draw.

    I see the work that Darren D and Geoff L do with some envy, what they are doing in the land management and permaculture is inspirational. I have 300acres in SW QLD and other family members have their own properties so drought proofing is something I really want to get into. I've been at TAFE for the past 4 years doing landscape and horticulture as a precursor to a PDC (I don't have a green thumb).

    In 2008, I intend to do a keyline course (probably Milkwood) and I can't wait for Geoffs DVD in January, it would of made a great xmas present for certain family members. Time is more of an issue than money. To take two weeks off plus travel to do the PDC it leaves me no time to actually work on my property.

    You could start small, build your own herb spiral, chicken tractor, no dig garden, aquaponics system, etc before doing a PDC. You could also look into courses on Solar Power and Strawbale houses.

    Good luck with it.
    Derek
     

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