Hi Brian... thanks for all the info, and I am a committed reader on the Milkwood website . Sadly I am not excessively tall, just right at 5.3', but wear size 4 shoes (lady size 7.5) . Stubby is the name of my first horse and somehow I ended up with it as a nickname. Maybe because we both have short legs and a big barrel? I am sold on the bathtub worm farm I have all the ingredients, other then the worms, so expect an order from me tomorrow, and I was thinking too that 1/2kg of worms is nowhere near enough to deal with all that poo around my place. Oh... and I have to pinch some bricks from the neighbour... they are just lying around there doing nothing, might as well put them to good use . I reckon I start looking for another bathtub or two now... don't really have the space for windrows but a spot for a bathtub I can find .