I found some earthworms underneath a bird carcass on the tarmac recently. No plants there. I also was confused by the links to earthworms, as for composting we're talking about compost worms. Sweetpea, I've read alot of this thread. You still seem to be saying that you can't usefully use compost worms in a humanure system. I just pointed out that there are plenty of examples where that is exactly what people are doing. Did you see my point about humans not being carnivores? I do think there are differences between carnivore, herbivore and omnivore poo. But I don't see how that stops worms working with it.