Lekker Lekker! Dyllos. I'm back again! Been busy gaining experience in the garden... Thanks for the open information and documentation. We have had good news lately! There is a PDC currently on the way in Okahandja, Namibia (https://noa.org.na/content/news/2015-02-permaculture). My friend and 40 others have enrolled for this coarse. My friend is however concerned again with the certification of the course. As I mentioned earlier we have gone through all the detail of the PDC already, but he just wants to get certified. According to the lead teacher the certificate is not important, it's the knowledge gained that is important; i.e. it's seems like there will be no certificate at the end of this course, just an attendance note. I've checked the lead teachers profile on the global website, and PDC that he took is not verified yet either... I totally agree with the teacher, the knowledge gained is the most important, but why do we go through the whole effort of being certified? This course is costing my friend the same as Geoff's online course would have cost him, plus he informs me that they are using Geoff's online course videos to run the course, that I've already borrowed to him to watch in the mean time, two weeks of the same stuff, but no certificate... On the one hand I am very excited for Namibia! 40 people interested in permaculture at once and doing a PDC is a great leap for a county with a population of only 3 million people!! I'm really glad and excited that they will be gaining this knowledge, but then on the other hand, I am still very confused with the whole certified permaculturalist thing! As we understand it (my friend and I), permaculture, or at least the term permaculture is owned by the PRI as stated by Bill Mollison. So for you to rightly say you are a permaculture designer you should be certified by the PRI? Will my friend be able to get certified by the PRI after this course?