can i do taboo?...please. Euthanasia the Permaculture Way

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  1. kimbo.parker

    kimbo.parker Junior Member

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    anyone can play, but some real certified designers that are prepared to put their name to the work would thrill.....

    here is the design brief

    some eminently worthy person wants to top themselves.

    they want a clean job....100%, no bits left to pick up.

    they are not fussed about the physical method; burning seams a waste, dissolving might take to long, ants are just frgn greedy and don't share

    a benign dispersal - fully distributed human capital

    a preferred rapid entrance into the food chain, but does not want to be part of any GM organism.

    the client fears loosing control of their genetics...they do not want to be reconstituted in whole or worse in part, say as the 'wet ware', providing the intelligence in some mining op on some remote asteroid, or the like.

    they want some spectacle, though only for themselves, something that gives it a 'sense of occasion'

    they want that stupid zarathrusta theme from 2001, and a bang would be nice.

    they don't give a shit about being a post humus criminal (ouch)

    and they definately don't want that "am i dead yet?" feeling,,,,there can be no doubts

    they don't want to start a fad, and all rights reside with the deceased pending.
    no, you can not youtube it.

    __________________________________> GO!
     
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    kimbo.parker Junior Member

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    blow em up, on a little raft, on the dam, stocked with silver perch.
    have some tech time things, play a sound file, release a butterfly, and send a tiny voltage ( wireless ) to the detonator switch,
    flash of light, big bang, fed fish and the yabbies take care of the genetics....

    that my friends is what i call permaculture design.
     
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    = ) "big bang" ... this is good.

    Good to see you back Kimbo!
     
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    I always wanted a pair of cement booties and be thrown into Moreton Bay when i die. I figure i have eaten so many fish and prawns and crabs from there it is only fair I give back. but everyone thinks I'm nuts. Putting someone in a box in a wall is nuts to me.
     
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    that's the spirit Annette!,

    cement shoes,,,,ah you just can't beat the classics.

    dissolved, or turned into sea lice shit......

    we thank you for your valued input.

    Annette, do you reckon this post is a no go zone for the mods? :)

    where are their designs for euthanasia?
    their probably in a huddle right now trying to figure out how to get this functionality from a Mandala Garden.
    cheers
    k
     
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    High Voltage

    i have a HV sparky for a son.

    he reckons that 32kv, would take care of the genetics.
    he reckons the savings elsewhere would more than compensate for the evaporation of liquids lost to the system.

    i say, we have a solar array and can not do HV

    he says, no worries, for that sort of temporary job, with no paper trail identifying his license, he could swing it.

    k

    i reckon we need a 'conceptualist',,,for maybe half an hour.
    if there is one out there,,,,feel free.
     
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    I'm sure PP could design a mandala garden to take care of the body once already dead (something creative that shares the nutrients around, not just digging a hole in the ground).

    Some cultures have prohibitions from taking food from systems where humans have died eg drownings. I don't know if that's a spiritual/emotional thing, or if there are physiological reasons for not eating our community.
     
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    Bazman could build a pyrolysis chamber for the job.
     
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    I have lots of ideas about what you can do with me AFTER I'm dead. What I worry about is the how to get there....
     
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    I'm with Eco on this. If I feel crook enough I intend to go off to the compost heap and lie down with a covering of hay biscuits but I wouldn't really want to spend my last month on the heap.
    It does lend itself to traditional ways - where the old people took themselves off to an island or mountain top and stopped eating and just communed with their spirits till the time came. Full of inner peace. Restful repose.
     
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    [group slap]

    is it because you are untrained and unqualified that you designers can not keep a focus on the brief?
    is it because you are scared of the brief, out of your depth?

    the brief was clear on the clients wishes.

    no one is addressing the frgn design brief!!!
    if you do not want to play, fine.

    but your current participation in a serious thread is dooming it to fail.....mostly mods i note.

    screening shit again?

    i post and you guys screen my post with fluff because it is not in line with your take on things.....
    not a good look, not subtle, stand out obvious twist at veto and censorship.
    perma pulp facisism for the perma facist - fire with fire?...............

    disrespect from the hierarchical top.

    i am getting that oppressed feeling again.
     
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    Ok - true to the spirit of the post and the permaculture way - I need more information and seeing as I can't pop over to observe directly - you'll need to answer some questions.

    With respect to the forementioned euthanasia - does one have a preference for speed and method? Most things that I can think of would be slow and not possibly such a pleasant experience.

    Like tying you up on the ground over a new bamboo shoot and leaving you there until it grew up through you and pierced your heart, thereby spilling your life blood on the plant and eventually adding your body to the mulch under the plant. That might take a few weeks. At some point on about the 3rd day I'd reckon you might change your mind about euthanasia.

    Lying on top of the worm farm could take a VERY long time to do you in.

    Ritual disembowelment whilst standing in the banana circle would be quicker. But messy still.

    A scuba diving friend of mine plans to go and sit at the bottom of a very deep ocean trench - sufficient to get narked so it isn't unpleasant, and wait for her tank to run out. It's not very permaculture though - you need a fair bit of technology to get you down there, and your gear would pollute the environment after the fishes finished with your body.

    Putting you out on a rock at sunset with a raw steak tied to you in the hope that the dingos finished you off before sunrise?

    Anything appeal yet? (this is creepy....)
     
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    why won't you read the brief?

    the client has answered all this in the brief!

    it must be quick,,,,no space to think 'am i dead yet?'

    in permaculture echo, we get things called design briefs - a staged documentation procedure.
    i did not set priorities in the brief,,,,,it was a quick intellectual exercise.

    i can not believe this is not strategy to shit me -
    it has worked, i will not be back to this thread.
     
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    "is it because you are untrained and unqualified that you designers can not keep a focus on the brief?
    is it because you are scared of the brief, out of your depth?"

    Nah, it's because it's half way between xmas and NY, I've had a hard year and I was more interested in the tangents than the actual brief. You're asking us to work during the holidays. I did find the brief quite interesting, but didn't get very far. I've thought about poison from plants before and would probably go for something low tech like that rather than explosives. Probably wouldn't fit the fast imperative though.
     
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    a long drop with rope made of some cool fibre into dehesa pigs dunno bout the bang but you will get a squeal
     
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    Pika Bird to the Herd

    Pika Bird to the Herd

    PNB’s ; cantstopmustkeeprunningknownottowhere Pika Bird
    PNB’s; cantstopmustkeeprunningknownottowhere Pika Bird!
    PNB’s; cantstopmustkeeprunningknownottowhere Pika Bird!
    PNB’s; cantstopmustkeeprunningknownottowhere Pika Bird!!!!!
    PNB; outtothesideslowingdownthinkinglots.
    ( In Memory of Douglas Adams – author, leader, Pika Bird to the Herd )​
     
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    do you think he did it on purpose

    what are you pruning?
    iv also had the pruning urge latley
    its nice work in the heat of the day /to be in the shade
    getting some nice trunks out of it 20 more years and ill have some great logs(robinia)
    hey kimbo why dont you track down my old friend Cris Curnow he is doing good things out in the saltlands i think he is with wwf
    keep pruning
     
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    thangs kim i never had the attention span for the hitchhikers guide
    but now thanks to google i think i understand what PNB's and pika birds are (i would quite like a breeding pair)
     
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    For goodness sake just make the guy a strong foxglove tea or give a Tablespoon of essential oil of penny royal!!
    Short sweet enough if you add honey and very quick.
     

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