are you a vegetarian ?

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  1. janahn

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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    why's that?
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    if you eat yogurt for instance you are meeting billions of little animals, you eat eggs you are eating the unborn, you eat fish occasionally on the basis that "i am vegetarian but i eat fish" and inevitably once in a group that are eating ethically raised grass fed free range lamb, you will succumb.

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    except for you ?
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    yoghurt - agreed

    eggs - what if your hen is sterile and the egg will never produce a chick?

    fish - agreed

    so, if you meet a anti-yoghurtist, anti-eggist, anti-piscatarian, will that person qualify as a vegetarian?
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    So.?
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    we're tackling the big issues here...
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    spot on...it is a big issue. i have a phobia regarding the misuse of the english language.

    I also saw someone highjacking american native indians with the claim they were vegetarians prior to the arrival of the spanish.

    i have a phobia regarding highjacking

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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    janahn is vegetohijackophobic

    show some consideration
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    My 7 yo daughter insists she is a vegetarian because she 'only eats a little meat'. She also told me in all seriousness that bacon doesn't count.
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    and so it hold that she is a little vegetarian :)
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    my understanding (dont know if it's true) is that if you eat yogurt the bacteria happily continue living inside of us and that is why it is good for health - the live bacteria are beneficial inside our body. So it is a mutual help...
    Many eggs vegetarians eat aren't fertilized so would never make it to chickenhood as someone already said. But in India where I'm living at the moment a veg person doesn't touch eggs - only milk taken from cows which normaly still have a pretty good life here...
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    ^ India; Sri Lankans specifically are the most vegetarian of all known world cultures. with some communities and groups getting 99% of their food from plants. Ofcourse they eat a legume-grain diet to make a complete protein but its better than nothing, I believe that 1% is from eithier ghee or a fermented milk of some sort. I got this from Weston Price; a dentist who travelled the world over in the early 20th century to study the traditional diets of isolated peoples from the Swiss Alps to the Australian Deserts. No doubt its probably changed slightly as dairy is more attainable even in the forested parts.


    I dabble back and forth but I always succumb to meat; for the first time apparently my boss admitted she wasn't 100% Raw Vegan even though she used to tell people that when she had raw classes at my job (Health Food Store). It was weird tbh; most people who say they are never admit it in my experience.
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    Would you be more content jahan if one was to say they did not support a mindless unsustainable poluting and dangerous industry such as the livestock industry and therefore chose not to eat the flesh of a farmed creature.

    Or is it that you will never be content?
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    I'm vegetarian and sometimes I eat meat. It used to really annoy me when I was younger and fully veg and people who ate meat sometimes called themselves vegetarian. But now I understand. I like vegetarian meals (for a number of reasons, taste, ethics, health). The trick here is to understand that vegetarian eating isn't normal eating minus the meat. It's a different kind of cuisine entirely (many different kinds actually).

    I'm not sure about the bacteria in yoghurt. Generally vegetarians (not vegans) don't want to eat meat. Bacteria aren't meat. It's easy to critique that stance if you really have to, but then it's easy to critique anything if you really want to. Is it useful?

    I agree that misuse of language can be annoying and unproductive. So can misuse of pedantry.
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    me personally, i refuse to eat factory raised meat, i promote energy efficient meat, aka grass fed sheep, cattle. unfortunately such creatures are a rarity in this country because many farmers / graziers push their country too hard and can no longer fatten animals unless assisted by grain.

    this process is supported, perhaps unwittingly by urban consumers who want cheap meat, which is a paradox, because to, the average grazier receives about $2.50 kg for meat that you pay upwards of $20.00 kg, sometimes more, for at the supermarket.

    our farmers must also compete against the global market forces, cheap wages overseas.


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    ps. from experience, most 98% vegetarians will eat the type of meat i produce, yet i do not sell it off farm.
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    since you've started a new thread about vegetarianism I'd like to explore the semantics (which is what I thought you were driving at) a bit more in this one.

    Question 1:

    Presumably you're aware of, or have used, or have heard others use, the phrase "begging the question" ?

    What do you take this phrase to mean? ie. what do you mean when you use it, or what do you understand by it when you hear it used?


    Question 2:

    What's the difference between a mountain and a hill?
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    ...and do you believe it is possible make a mountain out of a mole-hill?
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?


    is this a "Question 3" for the j-dude or are you laying down some heavy swipe on my buttocks gra-dog?
     
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    Question 3 for the j-dude my friend
     
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    Re: are you a vegetarian ?

    lol

    word, G
     
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