[paradisi"] Great to hear! Aussies don't seem to be much into cider but I find it to be a nice break from beer and wine. I tried to "just do it" (ie. not read much) and made cider once using filtered apple juice. Wait a dumb idea - turns out apple juice doesn't have much appleness to it - ferment the sugars away and you're left with just water and alcohol! Yuck! What's the best way to get large-enough-to-be-worth-it quantities of unfiltered apple juice? Pick up apples from the farmgate and squeeze all your own? .