G'day All I have landed a role in doing some preliminary planning for this thing (don't take too much notice of the political spin): https://www.jacintaallan.com/File.axd?id ... 7661806437 Any suggestions on how we might incorporate some permie ideas into it? Now before you get too carried away, and start thinking 'giant herb spirals' (although that might not be as silly as it sounds. Why should'nt a 21st C medical faciltiy incorporate TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine), and actually grow the herbs onsite? Apparently it happens quite a bit in most large teaching hospitals these days. The TCM bit, at least)... we need to remember that this community could be described as 'conservative', so any permie stuff might have to be dressed-up as 'sustainable development', if you get my drift. Maybe some 'green walls', or even a 'green roof' (edible, of course)? But don't let me stifle your creativity. Just want you to be aware of the 'climate' that we have to work in. I've been around permaculture for a few years now, sort of evolved towards it after many years of involvement with the eco-anarchy movement (see: link below), so I have a fair amount of knowledge about introducing permacultural concepts to folk in a manner that does'nt have them automatically thinking, 'whacko'. I actually coined the phrase 'permaculture by stealth' back in 2005, whilst completing my PDC. https://eng.anarchopedia.org/eco-anarchism Anyway, an opportunity like this does not come along everyday. So I thought I would throw the concept out to you good people. Whataya reckon? Can we make this thing a truly 'green' development? And remember, it's not just the building we are planning here, it's the entire precinct! Effectively nine blocks! We need to really start to push the boundaries in terms of forward ('scenario') planning. Let's just say, that I will be introducing the concept of 'planning for hundreds of years, rather than just decades'. A few examples of recent 6 star green buildings follow. Surely we can do better than these? https://www.stockland.com.au/Commercial/ ... rth/About/ https://www.mcec.com.au/About/MCEC-Compl ... tives.html and the one that started it all... https://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/rsrc/PD ... tWorks.pdf BTW - I'll be pushing for 6 star-plus. The green building categories are listed here: https://www.gbca.org.au/green-star/green-star-overview/ I (we) look forward to your valued input. Cheerio, Mark.