does anyone know how long it takes for one to realise that a comprehensive, efficient and sustaining permaculture system is impossible to construct "overnight." have you - when graced with a new un-perma'd block of land - tried to create and complete each zone simultaneously? i'm beginning to understand and appreciate why many people have a vegie "patch." not, a vegie "3 or 4 acres." after being locked up in rental apartments and such for years with concrete gardens, then suddenly gaining access to 10 acres of mostly viable land, i was like a suburban backyard dog being let out on an open beach - feeling the need to bolt in every direction at once. patience is the key (so i've heard) - one small step at a time....... yet i still seem to have 10 or 15 half-started projects running at once. and in my first sub-tropic summer, where you can almost hear everything growing about 3ft p/day, it's even harder to actually finish anything. when i first learned of permaculture, i mistakenly assumed that as you're essentially trying to work with nature - nature does a great deal of the work. well, eventually it does, just maybe not so much at the outset. one day i'll learn. the delusion's beginning to subside. but don't get me wrong - i'm still absolutely lovin every minute of it.