2012?

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  1. Jana

    Jana Junior Member

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    haven't looked at 2012 yet, will paruse the books today.
    There is talk with solar system alignment with the black hole in the center of the universe. By this they are really refering to the equatorial forces of the plane of the galaxy. There may be a slight increase in cosmic radiation in the ecliptic, but it is not like the solar system will collide with any extra space debris. And if anything "exposure" to the Great Mother at the center of the Galaxy will be even "less" than normal because the ecliptic contains the most amount of star material. We are probably fully in the major influence of the ecliptic plane already. As for polar flipping...that happens very slowly over thousands of years through the influence of changes in the suns field. My take is that storm weather will increase with avengence around that time, not because it is 2012, but because it is solar max, and global warming will amplify the already aggrevated weather of solar max.

    "This week researchers announced that a storm is coming--the most intense solar maximum in fifty years. The prediction comes from a team led by Mausumi Dikpati of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). "The next sunspot cycle will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one," she says. If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958." https://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006 ... arning.htm

    This means that producing a baby between 2010-2012 is not a good idea, as there is an increased likelihood of schizophrenia during very large solar max. If you simply must produce a baby at this time maximize anviral/antiradiation/antioxidant herb/raw-plant intake, and subsist largely on raw greens and seaweed/seafood.

    All weather vulnerable areas of the globe should be preparing for hurricanes, storm surge and flooding...preparations against erosion and rockslide should be underway, ground cover established and beaches fortified.

    Note too that Middle Eastern DU will be coming down more in the solar max storm weather.
     
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    that's the end of the Maya great cycle isn't it??

    haven't read the book but the year is stuck in my mind
     
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    I've been wondering when we,d get to this .I recently aquired a dvd about the mayan calendars and possible outcomes if anyone is interested?The related website is https://www.mayanmajix.com/
    I have been interested in this stuff for a long time but it seems to be coming to a head.Very basically according to Ian lungold their calendar records 16 billion years worth of evoloution and comes to an end on oct 28 2011. he has devised a calendar that corresponds to the gregorian callendar so you can cross reference your day / life . I sent away for the calendar last week but am yet to recieve it.
     
  4. Jana

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    https://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Sun/Su ... Peaks.html
    It appears that we will probably get one big solar max in 2010, and then another smaller one in 2012, 16 months after the first. Be aware that the sun's magnetic field does flip during solar max...and that this flip may be associated with a sense of anxiety for us earthlings.

    The 2012 phenomena presents us with another opportunity for self-reassessment, in the same way that a turn of the Century does. We are challenged to decide if we are willing to embrace change or not. We are challenged to decide if we are going to face into the future with love or fear. 2012 presents a threshold experience in our ability to wake up to deeper humanity, to directly address our maker and decide how we are to live honorably.

    Exerpts from The Mystery of 2012
    "Ego grows transparent and becomes illuminated by the divine mind that was hidden underneath. The Key to this prophecy is free will, for what we actually experience depends on our choices. Whether we cling in fear to the familiar illusion or open up to love and trust to the great mystery that seeks to transform and elevate us." John Major Jenkins

    "But what really matters is how we respond to the present moment; wheather we are prepared to be fully alive at this time of change. Are we prepared to help life to awaken, or are we too frightened of what we might lose, too caught up in the shadowlands of our attachments and collective beliefs." Llewwllyn Vaughan Lee

    "The maps no longer fit the territories. The only expected is the unexpected. Everything that was, isn't anymore and everything that isn't is coming to be. Ours is an era of quantum change, the most radical deconstruction and reconstruction the world has seen...We are guests at a wake for a way of being that has been ours for hundreds, even thousands of years...Our agenda is nothing less than the future. Our challenge is to cultivate hte vision and lay out the practical steps necessary to move through the opening times that follow upon the closing times." Jean Huston
     
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    "In every community, there is work to be done.

    In every nation, there are wounds to heal.

    In every HEART, there is the power to do it."
     
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    hello 2 the permaculture forum from the advanced beliefz

    Yo UK people
    for the heads that in london town come and represent at the newest night to hit landaan town
    2012 @ MAss - brixton - Commencing the 1st of Feb
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    peace n light
    people
    rivmic-advanced beliefz/advokatz
     
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    ... "The problem is that there is no conclusive evidence as to which dates in the Western calendar correspond to dates in the Maya calendar that are found on the stelae and in the codices." The number system for the Maya calendar is base 20
    https://deoxy.org/t_twzrev.htm
     
  8. Jana

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB7eJWLE ... re=related —Lecture on Precession and 2012 by David Flynn, occult symbology and geometry. David Flynn wrote The Temple At The Center Of Time: Investigations of Sacred Dimension, Revealed in Prophecy, the Temple of Jerusalem and the Ark of the Covenant, from the works of Isaac Newton

    https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8663885234 —The Naked Truth —how the world's religions are based on solar worship.


    If you see the above videos and have a basic idea of Julian Jaynes book “The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind,” then you will clearly see how cosmic cycles and earths movement in the galaxy have paid a huge part in the development of our myths, religions, science and art. It appears that the snake represents both kundalini (spiritual emergence) and the milkyway itself, suggesting that our spiritual evolution is inexorably tied to the great wheel work of nature. The cross is none other than the four points on the compass, such that we may navigate the world with the aim of living up to the glory of the universe (Lord). 2012 represents an opportunity to awaken to this hidden knowledge that we have been occupying ourselves with for thousands of years, without seeing the deeper meaning within the symbols.

    The angels, the Ananaki, the Shining Ones were actually the first impulses of spiritual consciousness to arise within the brain of primitive cultures, who lacked the capacity to integrate these “voices” rationally. Thus arose a vast matrix of creative theology around the globe to explain this new higher awareness which, because of its foreignness to normal operating modes, was projected “out there” on the heavens and connected to the geometry of cosmic cycles themselves. Dazzled and mesmerized by the stories and the symbols themselves, even today we are barely cognizant of the origin and reason for our religions. The story goes that the angels eventually have to descend down to earth because there is no longer room for them in heaven. This is simply an intuition that the “angelic voices” which previously seemed to descend from afar, will eventually establish spiritualized consciousness within the mind of man. And rather than condemning angels to an unremitting worldly life, we ourselves will create the heaven on earth that is our legacy.

    The tale of women having sex with Gods is not pointing to an alien breeding program, as many contemporaries suggest. It is probably related to Dionysian-like cults of women going through collective kundalini awakening, due to both cosmic influences and their joint mythological fever and rituals. As our newly emerging spirituality presented itself, its symptoms were intricately woven into the fabric of our religious myths. And because religion has been used for dominance and subversion few have gained the psychological maturity and distance to see the true physiological and psychological origins in the grand opus of the evolution of human consciousness.
     
  9. Jana

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    https://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html —Expanded Earth Theory Animation

    Hi Neal,
    Here is an interesting key to your expanded earth theory which you might be able to shed some light on. The Horsetail genus exists on all other land masses except New Zealand and Australia…since horsetail was so prevalent in the tropical land mass of the carboniferous…I cannot understand why Australasia (and perhaps Antarctica) doesn’t have evidence of it. Any Ideas????

    Horsetail comprises 30 species of flowerless, rush-like plants allied to ferns, which grow in all continents except Australasia (NZ &Oz). The hollow jointed stems have a whorl of tiny leaves at each joint. Spores are produced in a cone-like structure at the top of a stem. Horsetails date from the Carboniferous period. The Carboniferous Period occurred from about 354 to 290 million years ago during the late Paleozoic Era; when much of the land was lush and tropical and there was an explosion of vascular plants (which later formed coal, which is why the period is called the Carboniferous). But the giant species were gone by the middle to late Permian, some 50 million years later. Phylum Sphenophyta, genus Equisetum.

    Perhaps there is no horsetail in Australasia because of the Permian Meteor hit. 250 million years ago Australia and Antarctica were joined along with the bottoms of South America and South Africa. There is a 300 mile crater in Antarctica, 125 mile crater off Northwest Australia and a 200-mile-wide crater off the eastern coast of South America.

    Since the meteor hit prompted the break up of Gondwanaland and the land was basically sterilized by the impact…perhaps horsetail was not given the chance to recolonize Australasia. Recolonization from less devasted areas of land away from the ground-zero sites did not occur before separation of landmass occured.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDbz2dpe ... re=related —Siberian Traps mass volcanic event breaking open of crust, raised world temp. 5-10°C creating the Permian Mass Extinction, which made way for the age of the Dinosaurs. The Siberian Traps form a large igneous province in Siberia; estimates of the original coverage are as high as 7 million km²with a thicknesses of 12,000 feet. The massive eruptive event spans the Permian-Triassic boundary, about 251 to 250 million years ago and lasted for a million years. This a flood basalt event—Instead of isolated volcanoes spewing out lava, the crust split and curtains of lava were released. Also contributing to the extinctions was the fact that the Siberian Traps eruptions occurred near coal beds and the continental shelf, they also triggered very large releases of carbon dioxide and methane. The Siberian lava came up through the largest coal basin in the world. The vaporized coal would have produced immense amounts of carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide. (There is an unusually rich deposit of platinum metals associated with the Siberian Traps.)

    A 300-mile-wide crater lies hidden more than a mile beneath the East Antarctic Ice Sheet…more than twice the size of the Chicxulub crater in the Yucatan peninsula, This meteor could have been 48 km (30 miles) across and is estimated to have struck 250 million years ago - the time of the Permian-Triassic extinction, when almost all the animals on Earth died out.

    The Permian–Triassic (P–Tr) extinction event, sometimes informally called the Great Dying, was an extinction event that occurred 251.4 million years ago,[1] forming the boundary between the Permian and Triassic geologic periods. It was the Earth's most severe extinction event, with up to 96 percent of all marine species[2] and 70 percent of terrestrial vertebrate species becoming extinct.

    Australia and Antarctica were joined at the time of the impact, and there is another crater (125 miles wide) related to this time period off Northwester Australia—Bedout crater. Today Australia's share of the world's known uranium resources is about one third and it produces about 22% of the world's mined uranium.
    https://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.ph ... le&sid=969

    These large asteroid hits K-T and P-T are associated with the larva outputs of the Deccan Traps-India and the Siberian Traps respectively. the Siberian Traps were almost at the antipode - the point. Apparently when a large meteor strikes the Earth and sends shock waves to the antipodal point creating flood volcanism. This is the theory of Michael Rampino, of New York University and the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. In Rampino's view, one giant meteor - an asteroid or comet – crashed into southern Gondwanaland (the southern portion of the supercontinent
    Pangea). This object, at least 10 miles in diameter, scooped out a crater some 125 to 200 miles wide and 25 miles deep. The impact released enough heat to trigger a worldwide forest fire and vaporize a significant amount of water from the ocean. Shock waves reverberating through the Earth touched off intense volcanism. Airborne soot and dirt from the impact and volcanism blanketed the Earth and stopped photosynthesis, triggering a mass extinction of species. If all that weren't enough, Rampino believes the impact was so severe it triggered the breakup of Gondwanaland, setting free the landmasses that would much later become South America, Africa, Antarctica and Australia. "In fact," he says, "I think there's a case to be made that large impacts may be the triggers for large-scale tectonic movements and massive volcanic eruptions. If this is true, then to a large degree, huge impacts control the geology and biology of Earth."
    Rampino and Stothers noted that the solar system passes through the debris-strewn galactic plane every 30 million to 33 million years.


    Rampino's conclusion: A comet or asteroid 6 to 12 miles in diameter slammed into the Earth at an angle in southern Gondwanaland, forming the larger crater about 250 million years ago. The top of the object sheared off on impact, flew west and crashed to Earth near present-day South America, forming the smaller crater. A 200-mile-wide craterlike feature on the seafloor off the eastern coast of South America. The impacts triggered the breakup of Gondwanaland and led to the Permian mass extinctions.
    Rampino believes that the Gondwanaland impact itself may have triggered the Siberian eruption. In the Permian, the Siberian Traps were almost at the antipode - the point on precisely the opposite side of the globe - of the impact site, Rampino says. It is his contention, supported by some theoretical modeling, that the interior of Earth transmits shock waves from an impact site to its antipode. If a plume of magma from the mantle happened to be poking up at the underside of the crust at this antipodal point in Siberia, Rampino says the shock from the meteor impact could have been enough to breach the crust here. This would have allowed the magma to rush up through the sedimentary rocks and cause lava to erupt onto the surface.

    Rampino suggests a large meteor strikes the Earth and sends shock waves to the antipodal point, triggering flood volcanism there; He also contends that the asteroid that did in the dinosaurs 65 million years ago probably sent shock waves racing to the antipode of the impact site near Chixchulub in the Yucatan. That area was the Deccan Traps, a thick layer of basalt that covers much of west-central India. The age of the Deccan Traps is in accordance with this idea: 65 million years.
    https://atropos.as.arizona.edu/aiz/teach ... 3.1.42.txt
     
  10. Jana

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    The platinum group is needed for creating hydrogen generation, fuel cells and solar cells.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlYmO4S_Dkk —Total Kill Meteor

    If you watch this video through the end, you can see why the platinum group elements from a meteor get lodged both at the impact site (deep) and on the antipodal point at the opposite side of the earth (more surface).

    The palladium group have a higher melting point, which is probably why they occur in the asteroid belt. Their higher melting point meant that in the formation of the planetary disc (primordial solar nebula), these heavier elements didn't combine and congeal with the lighter metals, but where blown out by the solar wind to a band between the orbit of Mars and Jupiter. We would probably find this group of elements more within the core of the earth...and around the crust where asteroid material has fallen.

    "Individual asteroids within the main belt are categorized by their spectra, with most falling into three basic groups: carbonaceous (C-type), silicate (S-type), and metal-rich (M-type).
    The asteroid belt formed from the primordial solar nebula as a group of planetesimals, the smaller precursors of the planets. Between Mars and Jupiter, however, gravitational perturbations from the giant planet imbued the planetesimals with too much orbital energy for them to accrete into a planet." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_belt

    The six platinum group metals are ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, osmium, iridium, and platinum. They have similar physical and chemical properties, and tend to occur together in the same mineral deposits. The platinum group is a collective name sometimes used for six metallic elements clustered together in the periodic table. These elements are all transition metals, ie: "an element whose atom has an incomplete d sub-shell, or which can give rise to cations with an incomplete d sub-shell."
    https://chemistry.about.com/od/elementfa ... ladium.htm
     

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