What are "10" critical fruit trees?

Discussion in 'Planting, growing, nurturing Plants' started by Pakanohida, Dec 18, 2011.

  1. S.O.P

    S.O.P Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,456
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Nice list and extensive! Do you have any preferred figs or persimmon varieties?
     
  2. kimbo.parker

    kimbo.parker Junior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Messages:
    1,441
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    in the desert now, or just en route....via climate change

    and no one, i checked - said ziziphus jujube.

    "so what planet is this and how do i get back home?"

    where were capers, also missing.
    prickly pear?
    santalum spicatum ....ok it is a nut....but one hell of a feed.

    the design brief was 10 critical fruit trees, location - hot dry desert - who has bulk sustainable water amid hot and dry?,,,,therefore by extension 'desert'.
    so any and all fruit becomes a critical addition due to climatic limitations and water awareness.

    if you have for ever; dates
    figs and pomegranate, sure, but i'm not about doing things the 'same'.

    i am growing apples in the desert. i can do this only on MM111 rootstock, internationally renown,,,,it facilitates out of place apples.
    my list of species would include rootstock's that enable a broader range.
     
  3. Grasshopper

    Grasshopper Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2010
    Messages:
    1,016
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Sub tropics
    Mandarin
    Lemon
    Lime
    Orange
    Peach
    Plum
    Apple
    Avocado
    Grumichama
    Macadamia
     
  4. purecajn

    purecajn Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2011
    Messages:
    627
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Self Employed / Semi-retired
    Location:
    Westlake, Louisiana
    Climate:
    Sub-Tropical, Zone 9
    why do people always include Avacado and Banana in fruit trees for sub-tropic? I live in sub-tropic and unless you grow under plastic they won't produce anything edible?
     
  5. Yukkuri_Kame

    Yukkuri_Kame Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2010
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Avos are grown up into Northern California, though not commercially up there. They also do fine in sub-tropical Florida, where more tropical trees won't. Here we get several frosts a year- even a dusting of snow last winter - bumper crop of haas on our young tree this year - and they are tasty.

    I know nothing of bananas.
     
  6. purecajn

    purecajn Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2011
    Messages:
    627
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Self Employed / Semi-retired
    Location:
    Westlake, Louisiana
    Climate:
    Sub-Tropical, Zone 9
    maybe it's just lousyana itself. But I tell ya, no one I've talked to here has successfully grown avocado nor banana unless under plastic. The banana produces, but there v/small and unpalitable. They freeze back every year.
     
  7. Grasshopper

    Grasshopper Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2010
    Messages:
    1,016
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    38
    People successfully grow avocados and bananas in Melbourne/Victoria and thats listed as temperate.
     
  8. Greenmama

    Greenmama Junior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2011
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    In Western Australia, the banana growing region is Carnarvon - which technically is a semi-arid region with a wet monsoonal season, but many people would call it a "sub-tropical" region here because if you drive towards the equator, you end up in a tropical climate region. Maybe bananas need a period of dry warmth to thrive?

    I live in a Mediterranean region - plenty of fruit trees that grow without irrigation here:
    - Figs
    - Olives
    - Citrus
    - Apples
    - Peaches
    - Lilly pilly
    - Pears
    - Stone fruits etc

    I would assume that most areas would be able to grow fruit trees without extensive irrigation, yes? The Mediterranean region has long hot dry summers and almost everything does well except things that needs a nice cold frost.
     
  9. Ludi

    Ludi Junior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2011
    Messages:
    779
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Much of Zone 9 is too cold for bananas many or most years. San Antonio TX is Zone 9 and most years the bananas freeze back. I don't know of anyone growing avocado there.
     
  10. LonerMatt

    LonerMatt Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2011
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Exactly - choose variety carefully.
     
  11. Ludi

    Ludi Junior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2011
    Messages:
    779
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Any hints on what varieties are frost tolerant?
     
  12. LonerMatt

    LonerMatt Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2011
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'm lead to believe Hass are - but I've not grown them myself, so that could be incorrect hearsay.
     
  13. LonerMatt

    LonerMatt Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2011
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
  14. FREE Permaculture

    FREE Permaculture Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2006
    Messages:
    320
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    bacon is generally the best one for melbourne.
     
  15. Yukkuri_Kame

    Yukkuri_Kame Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2010
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yeah, Bacon is also preferred for frost tolerance in California. I have only haas at this point, am going to add reed & pinkerton. Supposedly those 3 will keep me in avocados year-round. Maybe add a fuerte or bacon later. But we have only light frosts here, so cold tolerance is not the biggest concern.
     
  16. Curramore1

    Curramore1 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2010
    Messages:
    299
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Primary Producer
    Location:
    Curramore, Blackall Range, S E Queensland, Aust.
    Climate:
    Sub-tropical to temperate 2000mm rain, elevated 350-475m
    Fig varieties Black Genoa and Brown Turkey-quite often get two crops. Persimmon- just a Japanese non-astringent variety.
     
  17. S.O.P

    S.O.P Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,456
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    38
    I read that White Adriatic is suggested for warmer climates, Black and Brown fine as well?
     
  18. S.O.P

    S.O.P Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,456
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Subtropics here, no frosts. Bananas plentiful.
     
  19. Yukkuri_Kame

    Yukkuri_Kame Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2010
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
  20. purecajn

    purecajn Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2011
    Messages:
    627
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Self Employed / Semi-retired
    Location:
    Westlake, Louisiana
    Climate:
    Sub-Tropical, Zone 9
    thx . No trees till next Feb tho. Will have to give them a shout if I remember.
     

Share This Page

-->