The collapse is upon us!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Planting, growing, nurturing Plants' started by Fernando Pessoa, Nov 11, 2010.

  1. Denise

    Denise Junior Member

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    Hi Im new here, just reading through the threads to see whats happening. As Im new to permiculture I dont know too much about the nutrient/protein qualities of my choices. The reason for my choices is because their yummy and I couldnt survive without them. So my choices would be:

    raspberries, passionfruit, mango, pumpkin, sweetpotatoe, onions, peas, bush lemons, capsicum and carrots.

    I need to ask this... what do I need to make my own chocolate???? I understand that chocolate withdrawal symptoms can be nasty.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaseolus_lunatus
     
  3. eco4560

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    Oh yeah - I have Madagascar beans for the first time this year and they are really pretty seeds, and taste yummy in a casserole or soup as a dried bean. But I reckon snake bean would be better.... Can eat them as a bean as well as drying them.
     
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    finally someone mentioned kale - reading through everyone's choices i kept saying wheres the kale (and broad beans!)
     
  5. Grahame

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    Yeah, I have recently discovered a kale that does really well here and I now much prefer it to silverbeet. So I am substituting kale in and putting silver beet on the bench.

    I'm also pretty keen to get asparagus into the starting side too.
     
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    ummmm, butter beans boiled with a nice cured piece of ham in it. I know what I'm fixing today
     
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    That sounds damn good, specially on this cold morning, however I am blessed at the moment with Dungeness crab, lots of them. It is very much my protein at the moment, and I need to figure out more ways to prepare them, herbs and veg to go with them, and more ways save them for the future.
     
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    omg that is a beautiful looking species of crab. just wish they weren't so difficult to eat. can they be cooked as any other crab? if so I can give you some cajun recipes
     
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    Boil 10 mins or steam for 20. Nothing simpler then that. So please share some of cajun country with me!
     
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    Deviled Crabs - melt 4 tbsp butter in a pan, stir in 2 tbsp flour, 1 tsp parsley, 2 tsp lemon juice, 1 tsp mustard, .5 tsp horseradish, salt pepper to taste and 1 cup milk. Heat, stirring until thickened. Add 2.75 cup of flaked crab meat and 2 hard boiled eggs (minced). Spoon this mixture into 12 cleaned out crab shell tops using same as bowls. Evenly distribute .5 cup butter toasted bread crumbs on the tops (brush butter across, optional) and bake at 400F in a preheated for around 10 minutes. enjoy. I love Deviled Crabs
     
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    Haven't worked out all 10 yet but definitely beans, corn, pumpkin, almonds, potatoes (true seed). Some sort of brassica, probably collards or kale. Hmmmm...that's six so far. I'll think about the other four.
     
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    a hard list to make - do we have 15 years of food after the collapse - can i included macadamias?

    a few definites - black kale, garlic, carrots (purple dragon if i can only choose one sort), broadbeans, pumpkin,
    long term plan - olives, apples (as we are desperate i will try from seed) and macadamia
    luxury- barley and hops (wild yeast beer anyone?)
     
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    I'm figuring after a collapse one would want fast growing short lived plants, in case you have to be on the move. To long in one place allows others to find your cash of food etc....
     
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    This is a welcomed change from crab ravioli's! Thank you very much.

    If you find a supplier for true seed let me know, I have not found one in months of searching.
     
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    Pakanohida, how about Tom Wagner. Isn't he the True Seed guy?
    He's on your continent anyway.
    Leila
     
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    Hmm, I see what you mean, no-one's selling true seed.
    I suppose it's a 'get people to save the berries' thing. My spuds generally don't fruit, but I've been curious about TPS for a while, so if any of my myriad volunteers produce seed, I'm giving it a go.
    Considering potatoes seem to come in either "yum" or "whatever", not "what did I just put in my mouth?!" the risk of a basically inedible outcome a la apple from seed seems much reduced.
    Leila
     
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    Old thread but very relevant.

    Amaranth - Amaranthus,
    Chayote - Sechium edule
    Kale - Brassica oleracea (Acephala)
    Lima Bean - Phaseolus lunatus
    Moringa – Moringa Oleifera
    Papaya - Carica papaya
    Passion Fruit (Yellow) - Passiflora f. flavicarpa
    Potato - Solanum tuberosum
    Sweet Potato - Ipomoea batatas
    Winged Bean - Psophocarpus tetragonolobus
    Most of these chosen because they are Fast growing, Long cropping season, Multi use plants, some Perennials with reasonable balance of nutrition,
    Some plants have all parts edible, such as the Sweet Potato, Chayote, Amaranth, and Winged Bean.
    …but I Want Carob, Macadamia, Tomato, Onion, Pumpkin, Carrot too
    Just 10 “Seeds” we all gonna die…! Need a shoebox full .
    You need 4 Fruit trees, 10 Anual Veg, 10 Perennial Veg, 6 Herbs, 10 Medicinals, 4 N-Fixers, 2 Wood, 2 Animals
     
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    Nah - you just need a bunch of friends with different seeds....
     
  19. Shawburn

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    Come on Eco - make a list.
    At first I thought it silly, then tried
    It's not as easy as you think !
    but
    I have to agree , like minded people will have a better chance when you have to run for the hills,
    and seed saving and exchange is a very positive thing to do.
     
  20. Grahame

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    Eco made a list already.

    Still happy with that Eco?
     

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