the great bill mollison copyright swindle

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    despite one director of the permaculture institute being aware that they had lost the common right to claim copyright to the word PERMACULTURE, may I pronounce today, upon this forum, that all prior claims, regarding ownership of the word PERMACULTURE, especially during the last 10 or maybe more years in particular, may be ignored.

    permaculture has been set free, all previous claims made on tagari.com regarding who may use the word PC, should be ignored.

    Leo

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    Re: the great bill mollison copyright swindle

    watch this post it may be deleted
     
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    2003

    https://www.tagari.com/download.php?file ... arBook.pdf
     
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    well i think lisa and bill have withdrawn this claim, co-incidentally when i suggested i would refer the matter to the ACCC.

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    What's the ACCC?

    Either the word is copyrighted or it isn't. It would be good to know which (and given the vagueness of this thread and some of the heavy handed language, some evidence would be useful).
     
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    well what i want to know, and i will repeat this item in infinitum, until she explains herself, why she thinks she has the right to stop others from using the word PC>

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    ACCC is the Australian Consumer and Competition Commission.

    she is ......according to.......
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    I thought the reasons for copyrighting the word are explained very well in the above piece by Bill Mollison. The only 'right' to that is if the Australian government agrees. You say they haven't. I'd like to know if that is true.


    That sentence doesn't make any sense.


    They're not stopping 'others' from using the word. They're stopping some people from using the word to make a profit if they haven't done a recognised PDC. Everyone else has fair use of the word. Seems like a good idea to me.

    Was it you who was waxing lyrical recently about accurate use of language?
     
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    Re: the great bill mollison copyright swindle

    You might want to explain yourself, because I'm just not getting what you are on about;

    First, you accused Bill of conducting a 'Swindle' in the title. Why?

    Second, you said the use of the word 'permaculture' has been set free. Huh? Who by?

    Third, Bill sought copyright for PDC grads (thanks Pebble), but anyone can use the word in normal use. What type of use are you concerned about?

    Fourth, When did Bill and Lisa withdraw a claim? And what claim do you mean? And you think it had anything to do with you?

    Fifth, You said they withdrew a claim, but then state that Lisa is not letting people use the word Permaculture. What's that all about?

    Sixth, What's Sindhu Lawton got to do with all of this?

    You seem to be making some very strong accusations here. You've accused someone of a 'swindle', and some courts may view this as slander.
     
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    Bingo Pebble, and the only conclusion I can draw from information ....left on my mobile message bank, all things considered, that at that particular point in time, when I owed money to ....... that she was involved in an act of fraud with ........ I have sought clarification with ....and she has refused to co-operate. I will apologise this is wrong.

    leo
     
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    common law which is above me, bill or you
     
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    i think i should rename this post, however i must wait until we get this first item sorted.

    leo
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    Re: the great bill mollison copyright swindle

    janahn,

    I noticed you call yourself, ''Permaculture Design Institute''.

    This forums Parent is the '' Permaculture Research Institute ''.

    Fairly close names... Are you saying there is a copyright infringement associated with these names ?
     
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    You're actually not making alot of sense. If this is a personal matter maybe you would be better talking it through with people you trust in a less public place.

    I agree with newcroft, if you accuse people online you may get yourself into trouble legally. As it is, I would suggest that the moderators remove this whole thread.
     
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    I'd like to know what its all about first... Its close to the breakfast side of bedtime for me... its been a long day... heck its been a long year!!
     
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    They're not stopping 'others' from using the word. They're stopping some people from using the word to make a profit if they haven't done a recognised PDC. Everyone else has fair use of the word. Seems like a good idea to me.

    Was it you who was waxing lyrical recently about accurate use of language?[/quote:1f1hvqlu]

    you are wrong pebble the australian government has nothing to do with it, i suggest you read up on the seperation of powers.
    the basis of our constitution.

    leo
     
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    Re: 'permaculture' copyright

    how much money do you want to put on it ?

    leo
     
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    I agree. There's no sense in this thread whatsoever. Leo has accused someone of conducting a swindle, and then gone on to accuse someone of conducting fraud, and perhaps implicated someone else.

    This thread should be deleted now for Leo's sake.

    I'm all for open debate Leo, but this is very serious stuff your saying.
     
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    I think perhaps you should start from the begining janahn... You seem to be posting thinking we all know whats going on...
     
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    it aint serious, it is fact

    put up or shut up, i am on record.

    leo
     
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