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    Thumbs up R U doing permaculture research?

    To get an understanding of who is already conducting permaculture research – either as academics, or as practitioners using a research approach in their project work – we have put together a series of surveys that will be rolled out over the next six months:


    Survey 1: Who's doing what?

    Survey 2: What research is wanted?

    Survey 3: How do researchers learn and communicate?

    Survey 4: What do researchers think about a permaculture research protocol?

    If you are involved in research we would be very pleased if you could spend 10-15 minutes filling in the first survey - http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/irs1 – and forward this to others that may be interested. We will make results known as we go along via our website (www.permaculture.org.uk/research) and present all the findings at the next IPC in Cuba. Many thanks in advance!
    http://www.permaculture.co.uk/news/1...arch-programme
    Aren't we all doing permaculture research on these forums?
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    Hazelip Syngergistic Kitchen Veg beds... ..check

    Hazelip syngeristic kitchen straw bale beds... check

    Crazy aquaponics set up... check

    Seed of Life Sisters Garden... ..that's a mouthful.. ..check.

    Dodgy Science thread started by me here somewhere... ..check.

    Starting Flowform use with aquaponics & ponds on property... check.

    Yeah, yeah I could say I am doing research.
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    I think what the UK permies are wanting is people using a reliable research methodology that will be taken seriously by the mainstream and can be used to generate permaculture knowledge in different ways than we have now.

    In fact looking at their website, they do have an outline of what they are expecting


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    I think permaculture could definitely use some dedicated researchers to give it some more scientific exposure. Otherwise it will be hard to escape the hippie label and show why permaculture is worthwhile to the rest of the world. Once I am more settled in my life, it's something I would really like to personally get involved in. There is great potential for sociological, ecological, and agronomical research (among others).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pebble View Post
    I think what the UK permies are wanting is people using a reliable research methodology that will be taken seriously by the mainstream and can be used to generate permaculture knowledge in different ways than we have now.

    In fact looking at their website, they do have an outline of what they are expecting
    Yeah, that's what I figured after reading it yesterday. Doing research experimentation using scientific methods is pretty intimidating for most people(and tedious).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unmutual View Post
    Yeah, that's what I figured after reading it yesterday. Doing research experimentation using scientific methods is pretty intimidating for most people(and tedious).
    Well, to be honest, my PDC is sort of on hold because I am researching Water & Schauberger's theories such as the +4C anomaly and how it applies to aquaponics. I figure I am going to have to take close notes, theories, etc.

    Schauberger's second major theory was in the structure of water. He believed that water is at its densest when cold (at +4C water anomaly point) (and at the time of a full moon), and that there are many layers in the structure of flowing water. He claimed that nature creates vortices to create equilibria. He further claimed that our current form of energy production/consumption scatters matter into disequilibrium. His studies were not approved by science at the time, even when his ideas were put into practice
    In another edition of Implosion Magazine, he says:

    "In contrast, all 'technical' machines, i.e. all dynamos, turbines, pressure pumps, propellers, explosion and steam driven engines, all furnaces, gas and electric heating appliances, all soil-tilling and harvesting machinery, etc. provide a developmentally harmful ex-pulse to initiate motion. Because of this and without exception, the atom lattice thus moved ruptures, resulting in the disintegration of the molecular (bacteriophagous) formations in suspension. In unnaturally moved air or water decadent stresses appear, causing the decay of the decisive energy-concentrates. This leads to the build-up of decadent potential and the decomposition of the blood of the Earth, and thus to a total economic collapse along the whole course of development."[7]

    The claim that a bacteriophage can exist in an atomic lattice is inaccurate, notably because a bacteriophage is approximately 1 thousand times larger than the gaps in a crystal structure. However it is evident that he had used the term atom generically to refer to particles, commonplace for his era, which contextually for his comment about bacteriophage in soil holds to be true as soil particles indeed host between them bacteria the disturbance of which breaks their bonds to surrounding material and organisms, thereby depleting soil's vitality.
    Source:Wikipedia

    Currently re-reading 2 books about him & his theories as well as one on Flow Forms since they do more then just add Oxygen to the water.
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